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The reality about Guantanamo bay finally hits home for Obama, or herein lies the dilemma.

I have been constantly surprised by just how unworldly so many of my pious friends from the left are when it comes to dealing with the questions around the thereat from the crazy Jihadists. How keen they are to defend the legal principles of habeas corpus even when to do so would put at risk the lives of so many of their fellows. As I have said for longer than I have been blogging when faced with those who have taken up the gun and the bomb to destroy western civilisation it is just about impossible to rely on the ordinary criminal law , and it’s quite admirable conventions to protect the people. The report in today’s Age makes it very clear that Obama now that he is on the brink of his inauguration has come clean and admitted that it will take longer than 100 days to resolve the issue and close the facility, if he wants to keep Americans (and by extension all westerners) safe from harm that is.

To enunciate a principled position is one thing to make a workable solution from that principle is another thing entirely.

“I think it’s going to take some time and our legal teams are working in consultation with our national security apparatus as we speak to help design exactly what we need to do,” Mr Obama said in an interview on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos — his first since arriving in Washington. “It is more difficult than I think a lot of people realise.

“Part of the challenge that you have is that you have a bunch of folks that have been detained, many of whom may be very dangerous, who have not been put on trial or have not gone through some adjudication. And some of the evidence against them may be tainted even though it’s true.”

He said it was a matter of finding a balance between “creating a process that adheres to rule of law, habeas corpus, basic principles of Anglo-American legal system (that doesn’t) result in releasing people who are intent on blowing us up”.

Mr Obama insisted that Guantanamo would still close, but he said it had to be done in a way that took account of the nation’s broader security strategy.


It is very clear what the problem is and I’m keen to hear the opinions of my readers on the likely resolution of the problem of those detainees. So I ask how long do you think Obama will take to close Camp Delta?

Cheers Comrades


9/11 charges

“Today the convening authority for military commissions received sworn charges against six individuals alleged to be responsible for the planning and execution of the attacks on the United States of America which occurred on September 11, 2001,” said Brigadier-General Thomas Hartmann a legal adviser to the convening authority, Judge Susan Crawford.

“These charges allege a long-term, highly sophisticated, organised plan by al-Qaeda to attack the United States of America,” said Brigadier-General Hartmann.

He said prosecutors requested the six be tried jointly by special military commission and that the charges be referred as a capital case.

If Judge Crawford approves the request, the death penalty could be imposed in the case of convictions.

The charges against them are conspiracy, murder in violation of the laws of war, attacking civilians, attacking civilian objects, intentionally causing serious bodily injury, destruction of property, terrorism, and material support for terrorism.

Four were charged with hijacking or hazarding an aircraft.

Hartmann identified the accused as:

– Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind who allegedly proposed the operational concept to al-Qaeda leader Osama bin laden in 1996 and went on to oversee the entire operations;

– Walid bin Attash, who is alleged to have run training camp in Logar, Afghanistan, where two of the hijackers were trained, and who allegedly travelled to Malaysia in 1999 to scout out airport security by US air carriers.

– Ramzi bin al-Shibh, a member of the Hamburg cell who was supposed to be September 11 hijacker but failed to get a US visa and instead became a facilitator who found flight schools for the hijackers and handled money for the operation.

– Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, a nephew of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who allegedly provided $US127,000 ($A140,000) for the plot and facilitated travel to the US of nine hijackers;

– Mustafa Ahmed al-Hawsawi, an assistant to Al-Aziz Ali, who allegedly provided the hijackers money, western clothes, travellers checks, and credit cards;

– Mohammmed al-Qahtani, the alleged 20th hijacker who was denied entry to the US on August 4, 2001, at Orlando, Florida.

The Age 

Of course these men should face capital charges the many thousands of deaths that they help facilitate demand the ultimate penalty but I am just waiting for the usual whine from the Uber-left that these men have been detained unlawfully at Guantanino bay ect ect, just like Hicksy was. When these men get the green dream, their much deserved lethal injections there will be a very collective sigh of relief that there is both a few less evil men drawing breath in the world and that Justice will have been served.

Cheers Comrades


Cue: SM & Craigy

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