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Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan deserve to be shot and then forgotten

Awaiting execution: Myuran Sukumaran, left, and Andrew Chan. Photo: AAP

Awaiting execution: Myuran Sukumaran, left, and Andrew Chan. Photo: AAP

“Australian government appeals are neither heroic nor heartfelt; Canberra is merely trying to save their own ‘subject bodies’ from the firing squad, while slowly disposing of ‘abject bodies’ it does not want through inhumane detention centres or returning them to foreign regimes that will probably finish the job for them,” Mr Marthinus said in an opinion piece in The Jakarta Post.

The impact of the executions on bilateral relations is coming under intense scrutiny in the English-speaking press in Jakarta, with conjecture that the decision to drop plans to waive visa requirements for Australian visitors to Indonesia could also be related.

However, this has been denied by the government and is also considered unlikely by migration agents.

And Bali’s Governor Made Mangku Pastika has said he would not like to see the execution take place on Bali because it could hurt the island’s public image.


I wonder If I am alone in feeling somewhat embarrassed by the excessive gnashing of teeth over the pending execution off these two scumbags?  There is no doubt that they did the crime, being caught red handed  with the heroin strapped to their bodies takes care of that, these two were the ringleaders of the scheme  so they deserve a harsher punishment than the other seven idiots. that make up the “Bali nine”gang. That said  I am sure that the usual suspects will whine and posture about how capital punishment is wrong in principle.  Frankly its not something that I believe. there are crimes that clearly deserve a capital sanction multiple murder, or murder in the name of a vile ideology are obvious to me, as is the repeated sexual abuse 0f children, when it comes to drug dealers its a little less clear. Personally I tend to think that some drugs are worse than others and  that those who deal in opiates, cocaine or crystal Meth are worse than those who sell a bit of Ganga.

So in the not too distant future Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan will have their stroll in the jungle , be tied to a post and shot dead this little black duck won’t shed a single tear nor will most of my fellow Ausies either. The usual suspects on the other hand will have an almost orgasmic out pouring of leftist angst all because these men happen to Australian citizens…

The sooner they are shot the sooner they can be utterly forgotten because they certainly do not deserve to be remembered.

Cheers Comrades


If scumbags are shot in the jungle and no one sheds a tear…

The value of money when it comes to recruiting for criminal activities

More amusement from our learned friend

Just imagine that someone here fronts up to a group of poor lads at a bus top here in Australia and suggests to a nineteen year old that if they agree to work on a boat for one voyage and for doing that they would be paid a what would amount to a year’s salary for the job. Surely the first thought going through that lads head would have to be that no one offers that much money for a simple job unless there is something dodgy about the offer, Something like it being either a scam illegal very dangerous or all of the of the above. Frankly I don’t think that Aussies would be any different to Indonesian lads when it comes to accepting such offers namely that if their greed overcomes their good sense and then they get caught its hard to to feel too much sympathy when they face a very harsh penalty for the laws that they have subsequently broken in pursuit of that easy money. I felt that way about the Bali Nine and I feel the same way about those Indonesian people smuggling crew who are being   prosecuted and jailed for breaking our law.

The sins in play here with these crewmen  and with the Bali Nine are precisely the same, Greed and wilful stupidity and an irrational belief that they would not get caught. Now from an Australian perspective it is easy to say that the “10 million rupiah (about $A1000)” is not a lot of money  but to do that is not appropriate; we must view the amount of money from the perspective of the young man offered the stipend. To him that is a very big wedge indeed. Sadly minions of the left like our learned friend thinks that criminals such as this should be given a slap on the wrist and then sent home with “I love Australia Tee shirt*”

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There is something sadly predictable about our learned friend’s argument. In the first instance he ignores the very long-standing principle that ignorance of the law is no excuse and that it should have no effect on the punishment received by law breakers. But further he makes the patronising assumption that because the chap in question is from a poor background has no concept of right or wrong and that as such he does not deserve whatever punishment the courts deliver.

Finally he cites, as an alternative, a very wishy-washy propaganda  piece from the Greens even though  it wouldn’t be in any sense a viable alternative. I suppose that it does show just why the Greens are so attractive to political theorists like our learned friend. They, like him, just love playing “what if” games based upon some “high minded principles” knowing full well that those ideas will never  be put to the test in the real world.

Cheers Comrades

A strange dance of denial that those foolish traders in the white death play

Only the most deluded fool would think that Indonesia would ever change its long-standing hard-line on foreign drug smugglers condemned to death in their courts. However its a strange dance of denial that those foolish traders in the white death play…

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Of course knowing that Juliar and Kevin are on the job will be a huge comfort to the condemned men because they will soon appreciate their great abilities to make all of the right noises (to their support base)while not actaully doing anything of substance to address the actual problem( think of the Oh so effective Carbon tax, pink Batts, or the BER). Some how I don’t think that the last thought as these men wait for the bullets will be to thank Juliar and Kevin so you would have to wonder why our PM and foreign minister are bothering to ask for something that is sure to be refused.

As for the condemned men, well  it has to be time to  summon up whatever  courage that they have  so that they can go to their self made end with some dignity.

Cheers Comrades



Andrew Chan should have realised that the house always wins

We can debate the justice of a death penalty for drug smuggling until the cows come home but there is no doubt that it has been well known for years that Indonesia shoots drug smugglers that it catches and Andrew Chan must have known that before he hatched his ill-fated scheme to import heroin into Australia via Bali. Apart from the shock of being caught, It can’t have been a realistic expectation that he would receive any other sentence. Further it can’t have been a reasonable expectation that appealing the sentence would succeed in cancelling the firing squad either. So I find the tenor and tone  of the reporting  of this very as  expected decision to be rather silly and quite ridiculous.

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I can’t help thinking though that there may just be a bureaucrat in the Indonesian  department of justice with a heart though because the decision to tell Scott Rush that he won’t face that post in a jungle clearing at the first opportunity meant that he was spared some measure of fear and loathing for his fate and in a strange kind of way not telling Chan immediately that his appeal has failed has given him a brief period where he could maintain some measure of hope that his fate was not  a last walk into the jungle. There is no reason to expect that the final appeal for clemency will succeed either, so it now becomes a matter of when rather than if and I don’t think we should shed any tears for the very silly man who has gambled with his life and lost.

After all everyone knows that the house always wins in the end and only the most desperate gamblers think otherwise.

Cheers Comrades

Indonesia’s Courts vs Team 6, or Justice delayed is better than justice denied

There are times when I have been not so  impressed with Indonesia’s courts and there are times when I have been pleased that they can deliver justice to some rather nasty wrongdoers well I must say that I was pleased that that merchant of hate will probably spend the rest of his life in a prison cell, Sadly though I expect that he will still have the chance to preach his  hatred  and bile from within that jail cell.

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Although I can’t help thinking about the way that other inciter of Jihad have been dealt with in recent months could perhaps have been an inspiration for dealing with Bashir…. No, dealing with him  through the courts is the best option and hats of to Indonesia for finally making the charges stick, after all its the rule of secular law that is the mark of a proper civilisation and sometimes they even manage to deliver justice….

Cheers Comrades

Dead men walking

The executions of Hansen Anthony Nwaolisa and Samuel Iwuchukwu Okoye near their prison in Central Java were a grim reminder of the urgency of the convicted Australians’ plight, Mr McDonald said. The Nigerians are the first drug offenders to be executed in Indonesia in four years, following a call from Attorney-General Hendarman Supandji and police chief General Sutanto to speed up executions as a warning to those involved in the drug trade. Central Java police mobile brigade chief Colonel Dicky Atotoy said the two Nigerians, caught smuggling heroin in 2001, were blessed by two priests before being executed. “They were handcuffed to poles, standing side by side and shot by two sniper squads,” he said.

When I wrote my piece yesterday I did not expect that the Indonesians would act this quickly but as the report above shows they have made good with their stated intention to expedite the execution of convicted drug smugglers.

In the previous comment thread Ray Dixon made the point that he supports the repatriation of Australian nationals so that they can serve their sentences here, well you know what, I agree with that but when it comes to the condemned among the Bali Nine I just don’t see it happening.

They have exhausted all legal avenues to avoid that post and the handcuffs, except for a plea for clemency and experience suggests that such a plea will fall on deaf ears not only because the Indonesians want to be seen to be ‘tough on drugs” but also because they don’t want to appear to be softer on Australians and westerners than on drug couriers from the third world like the two poor sods they sent to meet their maker yesterday.

It seems to me that the fate of the three Australians is well and truly already decided and it is a grim end indeed that they face. Like all death penalties there is a certain morbid ritual and perhaps the best that we can hope for these three men is that they can find the courage to face their demise with some dignity because I think that at  this point there is no hope whatsoever that they will be spared.

Until next time comrades


Tick tick tick…..

The fate of the Aussie drug smugglers known as the “Bali Nine” has largely fallen of the radar for all but their families and friends but I expect a flurry of opinion pieces denouncing capital punishment in general and capital punishment for drug offences in particular.

Attorney-General Hendarman Supandji said other drug offenders on death row could expect their cases to be expedited.INDONESIA says it will speed up the execution process of drug traffickers, in a major blow for three Australians on death row for heroin smuggling.

As authorities prepared for the executions last night of two Nigerian heroin smugglers, Attorney-General Hendarman Supandji said other drug offenders on death row could expect their cases to be expedited.

The head of Indonesia’s anti-drugs group also said executions must take place more quickly to deter traffickers.

“To give them a lesson, drug traffickers must be executed immediately,” Police chief and National Anti-Narcotic Body chairman General Sutanto said.

“With a quick trial and execution process it will give a deterrent effect to the perpetrators, and perpetrators-to-be,” he said.

The comments are a blow for the three Australians on death row over the failed Bali nine plot to smuggle more than eight kilograms of heroin into Australia in 2005.

As their  date with the firing squad comes closer I still find it hard to feel any sympathy for the Bali Nine and I still tend to think that the world will be better off with three less drug dealing scumbags… However lets stick to the facts for a minute

There is no doubt that they did the crime , being caught red handed is rather hard to wiggle out of.

There is also no doubt that they must have known that it is a capital offence to smuggle drugs in Indonesia, they post enough signs at airports ect.

Their deaths will be a deterrent to others who contemplate smuggling heroin so perhaps their miserable lives will have some value in the end.

There is even something here for the euthanasia enthusiasts as well because It can be argued that an execution is more humane than a lifetime spent in  an Asian prison.

Cheers Comrades


Trifecta for the “Bali Nine”

In a split decision delivered in a Jakarta court room, the panel of nine judges rejected the application by three Australians and two Indonesians and upheld the death penalty in relation to drugs offences.

The judges ruled that the right to life in the constitution and under international protocols was not absolute and had to be balanced against the rights of victims of the drug trade.

They focused very heavily on effects of drugs while delivering their decision.

“It’s not against the constitution, (and it’s) not violating international obligations,” the judges ruled.

There were several dissenting judges, but numbers were not initially clear as the hearing ended.

The ruling is a major blow for Bali nine ringleaders Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, and drug mule Scott Rush, who had hoped a favourable ruling would add weight to their final appeals against their death sentences.

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Now I am of the generation who grew up with the words of Timothy Leary ringing in our ears ” tune in, turn on and drop out” but I never bought into the whole deal and my attitude to white powder drugs has never been that they are a good thing

As it gets closer to their sentences being carried out I must say that the Lawyers for these condemned men do seem to be trying every possible line of argument to spare the lives of their clients, and when these chaps face the firing squad, as it seems that they will their lawyers will at least know that they have done every thing humanly possible for their clients under Indonesia’s laws.

I find my self rather ambivalent as to if a death sentence for drug smuggling is appropriate or excessively harsh. On one hand I have known some opium slaves who would do absolutely anything to do the dance of death with Heroin. There is no sadder creature. So when I see the faces of the condemned members of the Bali nine it is not I think not so much about their own families who are fretting at their sons  fate, but of the families of the lost opium slaves who would have been despairing about the dissolute lives and early deaths that is the lot of an addict. Does being a part of that supply chain of death warrant the forfeiture of life itself that is the ethical question here.

As regular readers will know I have never been against the death penalty per see, My line has consistently been that some crimes are so bad that death is an apt punishment. but also that in capital cases the standard of proof must be even higher than beyond reasonable doubt (beyond all doubt seems necessary to me) and there is no doubt that the accused here are guilty.
9.5 Kg of smack is an awful lot of hits once the drug is on  the streets and you could very reasonably assume that there would be quite a few of the end users of this shipment who could actually die using some of these drugs so add that to the misery of both the addicts and those whom they will rob, lie to and cheat and we have quite a large pool of misery that these men would have expedited for a handful of currency. Evil enough I think, to justify the punishment.
The final part of the trifecta that justifies us not feeling too concerned about the fate of these men is their stupidity. Indonesia, like other Asian nations makes no secret of the fact that drug trafficking is a capital crime in their countries. So these men knew the risk they were taking in their pursuit of a quick dollar. They took a gamble and they lost their bet that they could get away with it. Do we really want this kind of stupidity perpetuated in future generations of Australians? Their deaths will not do any harm at all to our gene pool and it may well serve as a warning to other fools not to do as they have done.
Don’t waste  a tear on them  Comrades

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