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Radio star dropped for calling Prophet Muhammad a paedophile, or Isalm killed the radio star.

I don’t know about anyone else but I don’t have much time for kiddie fiddlers even though I’m not a cruel man I can imaging no end for those who abuse children that is too grisly, too “cruel and unusual” for those who use children as their sexual playthings. Frankly those in the religion business don’t deserve any special treatment  or consideration either. Yes I am thinking about those despicable near contemporary  minions of the Catholic church and others as the current Royal commission has been revealing. However its a case of woe betide anyone who points out that the originator of the Islamic faith, married a six year old girl and consummated that union when she was nine:

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Sacked for telling the truth, hmm am I the only one who thinks that there is something rotten here?

Cheers Comrades

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18 Comments

  1. Matt Patchon says:

    Absolutely agree Iain. It is this type of intolerance (of the truth that is) that will allow (radical) Islam a solid foothold into Australia. Badar’s FODI talk is a prime example about how close to general acceptance (apathetic inclusion) Islam is. Sure, many Muslims are moderate (ideologically incompatible as that is), but where is their voice in condemning the harsher truths of Islam? Where is their voice of condemnation when 2nd gen Australian-Muslims run off to a foreign war which Australia has not entered? If these guys fought as Australians in a foreign conflict, in say Afghanistan, how can you know where their true loyalties lie? How can you know they won’t turn on their comrades?

    There have been instance in the US where Muslims in the US army have opened fire on comrades in barracks on US soil. Whether it was state of mind, or ideological viewpoints, which drove these actions, is hard to prove; it is scary none-the-less.

    There are any number of books, such as by Mark Durie, that highlight the incompatibility of Islam with a Western culture, Christian or Secular.

    Ala above story, this all happens in the name of “tolerance”.

    Scary

  2. Dr A Akyol says:

    Actually there is no ‘fact’ or ‘truth’ at play here. Any statement that claims the age of Mohammed’s wife Aisha is highly contestable. There is no extant historical evidence proving Aisha’s age and Islamic scholars disagree on the matter. The only declarations of her age can be found in various Hadith, written generations after her death. Some have her marrying at age six, others as late as 12. Those who claim her age as fact are either ignorant or simply exploiting it for political reasons.

    Which leads to my next point: even if we accept the claim on face value, it is provocative to label Mohammed as a pedophile. Child marriages were common in medieval Asia and Europe; pedophilia as a legal charge and a concept simply did not exist. Worth noting that the children of Europe were frequently married off to adults. Isabella of Valois was six when she was married to Richard II, who was 30. Margaret Beaufort, the mother of Henry VII, was married twice by her 12th year and gave birth at age 13. Yet we do not criticize the British royal family for being the descendants of ‘pedophiles’.

  3. Iain Hall says:

    Dr A Akyol
    Did you miss the part of my post, right at the beginning where i pointed out that my disdain for Kiddie fiddlers is entirely and absolutely universal? Thus I don’t think that it matters at all that children have been married off in other places I have equal disgust at any example of a prepubescent girl being so ill treated.

    Further you saying ” Some have her marrying at age six, others as late as 12.” does not really change anything because a 12 year old is still a child.

    Finally you call yourself Dr A Akyol so what are you claiming to be a doctor of?

    Oh yes I almost fort to welcome you to the Sandpit 😉

  4. Iain Hall says:

    Yes Matt the price of freedom is eternal vigilance, welcome to the Sandpit BTW 🙂

  5. Dr A Akyol says:

    Sir, you misunderstand my point. Yes, child marriages and pedophilia are abhorrent today. But such things were the norm in 7th century Asia and medieval Europe. Applying 21st century values and morals and using them to judge or condemn people who lived centuries ago is utterly pointless. Those who call the Prophet “a pedophile” (a modern pejorative, not even invented in Mohammed’s time) usually do so only to provoke and antagonize Muslims.

    I have a doctorate but it is not relevant to this topic.

  6. Iain Hall says:

    Dr A Akyol

    Those who call the Prophet “a pedophile” (a modern pejorative, not even invented in Mohammed’s time) usually do so only to provoke and antagonize Muslims.

    Were this to be only a matter of some rather unsavory historical bon mott then I would agree however there are, sadly, plenty of contemporary instances of Muslims following the example of the Prophet, who after all is held to be the example of a perfect man by followers of Islam. Sadly Muslims are far too easily provoked and that is at odds with our secular traditions that essentially amounts to nothing being immune from criticism and even humour and ridicule.

    If Muslims want to be better accepted then perhaps they need to lighten up a bit and not take such a dourly serious view of religion and stop using violence and intimidation against those who don’t feel the need to buy their place in heaven with the blood of unbelievers.
    Finally if your doctorate is irrelevant to this topic then why cite it in your username? Surely you have spent enough time in Melbourne to have learned that this is an egalitarian country that does not do automatic deference to those who have academic titles.

  7. Dr A Akyol says:

    What you say about some Muslims marrying child brides is sadly true. But to suggest they do so “following the example of the Prophet” is not. Such things are cultural artifacts of Middle Eastern, Asian and African societies. They do not have their origins in the Qu’ran or Hadith, though unfortunately some Muslim scholars have absorbed and incorporated them into their own teachings. As you would know, Islam does not have a central church or doctrinal authority, so the teachings and attitudes to these topics varies widely from place to place. As for your suggestion that Muslims must “lighten up”, this may be true, however in such situations the onus is on both parties, both the respondent and the provoker, to reform, is it not?

    I include my title simply because it is habit, not to demand ‘deference’. I’m not sure how you came to this conclusion.

  8. Ray Dixon says:

    Storm. Tea. Cup. It was the radio station management who decided that Smith had gone too far, Iain, not Muslims. The station acted of its own accord in sacking him with no pressure applied whatsoever. The guy has form for being a bigot and inflammatory and I guess the station just decided ‘enough is enough’. If his dismissal so concerns you then I suggest you direct your complaint to the radio station instead of blaming muslims in general. I’m sure the management of 2GB is not muslim. As for the notion of Allah being a ‘kiddy fiddler’, I think the ‘Doctor’ here has adequately explained how that is out of context.

  9. Ray Dixon says:

    I should also point out that Smith wasn’t an employee of 2GB as such, but merely a regular guest on one of its programs. That being the case the radio station was perfectly within its rights to tell him he’s no longer welcome. End of story.

  10. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    You always say something along the lines of “Storm. Tea. Cup.” no matter what is done in the name of Islam
    Dr A Akyol

    What you say about some Muslims marrying child brides is sadly true. But to suggest they do so “following the example of the Prophet” is not.

    Why not? Isn’t the life and teachings of the Prophet

    the core of Islam ?

    Such things are cultural artifacts of Middle Eastern, Asian and African societies. They do not have their origins in the Qu’ran or Hadith, though unfortunately some Muslim scholars have absorbed and incorporated them into their own teachings. As you would know, Islam does not have a central church or doctrinal authority, so the teachings and attitudes to these topics varies widely from place to place.

    Vary they may but enough of them will excuse or even endorse these practices for it to be intrinsic within the story of Islam

    As for your suggestion that Muslims must “lighten up”, this may be true, however in such situations the onus is on both parties, both the respondent and the provoker, to reform, is it not?

    Well no because for a society to maintain a tradition of secular irreverence it must resist any and all attempts to limit or freedom to mock any and all belief in things supernatural.

    I include my title simply because it is habit, not to demand ‘deference’. I’m not sure how you came to this conclusion.

    Well OK but I suggest that you might benefit from adopting some of the informality that is such a fine Australian virtue

  11. GD says:

    As for the notion of Allah being a ‘kiddy fiddler’, I think the ‘Doctor’ here has adequately explained how that is out of context.

    It’s not out of context when you consider that this is still happening today, and happening in Australia. Michael Smith was raising a valid, pertinent point.

    Ray’s turning a blind eye to this depravity that is being imported into Australia and promoted in the mosque driven communities, is a perfect example of the leftist apologia for the scourge that is Islam. Were the Catholic or Christian religions supporting this abuse, we’d hear no end of it from the left. However, for some twisted sick reason, Islam gets a free pass from the leftists. They support homosexuals, women’s rights, et al but when it comes to Islam, it’s ‘nothing to see here’, ‘move along’ and please don’t offend our ‘friends’ of the murderous Islamic faith.

    Female genital mutilation and forced underage marriages are occurring now in Australia, but the Left turn a blind eye.

  12. GD says:

    I include my title simply because it is habit, not to demand ‘deference’.

    bullsh*t 😦

  13. Ray Dixon says:

    Iain:

    You always say something along the lines of “Storm. Tea. Cup.” no matter what is done in the name of Islam

    Not always but when it’s a non-issue like some shock jock being barred from 2GB for his anti-muslim remarks I think it is indeed a ‘storm in a tea cup’.

    GD:

    Ray’s turning a blind eye to this depravity that is being imported into Australia

    Depravirty is not limited to the muslim community and I do not ‘turn a blind eye’ to it. I disagree with and condemn any forced underage marriages and female genital mutilation. It’s illegal, GD, and I support the law being enforced over any offenders. How are you going with your monitoring of the situation in Western Sydney, btw? Have you been carrying out your duties by inspecting the genetalia of the young muslim girls in your suburb, just to make sure it’s all intact? I’m waiting on your field report because we need to know exactly how many clits have had the snip.

  14. GD says:

    when it’s a non-issue like some shock jock being barred from 2GB for his anti-muslim remarks

    Have you ever listened to Michael Smith or read his blog? Most likely not. He is far from being a shock jock. If you’d pull your head out of your posterior you’d realise that he is a very decent man.

  15. Ray Dixon says:

    Well good for him, GD. You should be protesting to 2GB then, not to me.

  16. GD says:

    Well good for him, GD. You should be protesting to 2GB then, not to me.

    cop out, Ray, why don’t you man up and address the issue

  17. Ray Dixon says:

    GD, you’re responding to a comment I made 9 days ago? Christ man, I had to go back and re-read the whole post and comment thread to see just WTF you’re talking about. “Man up”? Huh, are you drinking again? I’ve adequately “manned up” and “addressed the issue” already. If you can call it an “issue”. Here goes, I’ll try to nutshell it (again) for you:

    Controversial radio guy with a record gets barred from further guest appearances for saying Mohammed was a pedo.

    IOW, there is no story here. Radio station’s decision. Radio station’s right to make that call.

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