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Read All About It: Labor’s Ghastly Trash Rag

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  1. GD says:

    Great post by Yale, sums it up perfectly.

    an employment opportunity for “an experienced Editor” paying about $95,000 per annum; a monthly subscription fee of $22.60 per month; and the promise of “both useful and interesting” articles on “issues like the Commission of Audit” and “cuts to pensions.”

    a monthly subscription fee of $22.60 per month

    Labor once again shows it has no idea about running an enterprise or business. Who the hell is going to pay $22.60 a month to read online articles from Labor when Labor already gets full-frontal support from the tax-payer funded ABC and the FTA Channels 7, 9 and 10?

    Channel 7’s Today Show with Kochie panders to Labor at every opportunity.

    Channel Ten’s ‘The Project’ is a typical Gen Y fun and games approach to the news, none of which favours the Coalition.

    Channel Nine favours sneering lefty journalism with sour-puss Lisa Wilkinson turning up her nose every time she interviews a conservative politician.

    Labor hasn’t learnt a thing from their disastrous six years in government. On the other hand, the Libs and Tony Abbott, after six months in the job, have already stopped the boats and begun trimming green waste.

  2. Ray Dixon says:

    Labor already gets full-frontal support from the tax-payer funded ABC and the FTA Channels 7, 9 and 10

    You’ve finally done it. GD. You’ve just proved how paranoid you are – “they’re all against us, it’s a conspiracy.”

  3. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    Labor does generally get a better run than the conservatives but you are missing the point here The ALP still thinks that its only problem is that the voters are not “understanding” its message when the real problem is that time and again when in government they just can’t run any of the grand schemes that they dream up. They are always in a mad rush to “do” things quickly rather than well and you need look no further than the revelations of the Pink Batts royal commission to see the perfect example of Labor’s M.O.- they have what is not such a bad idea, namely to insulate the nation’s housing stock and they then proceed to design a scheme “on the back of a table napkin” that just opens the flood gates to every chancer a spiv to rip the government off by delivering both shoddy installations burning houses down and killing installers. When all they ad to do was make it that householders had to put in say $200 themselves to slow down the uptake enough that the spivs would have had a harder time flourishing. Its NOT just about the optics Ray its a bout the lack of substance from Labor and its that which they need to address.

  4. Ray Dixon says:

    The point you miss, Iain, is that Labor does things, while the Coalition does nothing. The reason the Coalition never botches a grand scheme or major project is because they never implement any. Anyway, I’ll judge Labor on it successes like Medicare (you know, the scheme that the Coalition wants to destroy) because that’s the measure of leadership – doing things that matter, even if they have problems with them like the insulation program. Which, btw, was not Labor’s fault. To blame the Govt for those matters is like blaming the Govt for every industrial accident on a home building site that is funded by a first home buyers grant. This RC is a political witch hunt and a waste of $100 million. Christ, Abbott knows how to waste money on meanlingless intangibles; at least Labor spends it on things you can see, feel and touch. Things that matter.

  5. Iain Hall says:

    Ray what you seem to miss is that its better not to do things than to do things badly. As for Medicare well the problem is always going to be that the costs of medical treatment and the demand are infinite and the revenue to fund it is finite so there has to be a balance drawn between universal cover and viability. To be frank I don’t believe that the coalition wants to “destroy” it because overall it works.
    Finally the Royal; commission on pink batts shows what a shambles the scheme was and without per empting their findings I think its clear that the fault is ALL with the designers of the scheme and the fools who could not manage it well either. Even when it was totally clear that it had problems Rudd did nothing.

  6. Ray Dixon says:

    its better not to do things than to do things badly.

    No, that’s a loser/non-risk-taker outlook, Iain. Real men do things, some wrongly, but that doesn’t matter. It’s just important to try and have some success rather than do nothing and have none. A lot of MPs are just in it for the wage, perks and the unbelievable lifetime pension they get. They’re followers, not leaders. Abbott’s one of those.

  7. Ray Dixon says:

    I should add, so is Shorten a follower. And so was Gillard. Rudd, on the other hand, was a doer. As was Keating. Hawke was an egomaniac pretender though.

  8. Jeff G. says:

    Labor already gets full-frontal support from the tax-payer funded ABC and the FTA Channels 7, 9 and 10

    GD’s problem is that he thinks anyone or anything that doesn’t continually slag off Labor, like he does, must be biased. So say that the commercial TV stations are biased is a joke. Especially when C10 runs an hour of Andrew Bolt, which is essentially an hour of slagging off the ALP.

    I am with Ray, it is better for governments to try things to improve the country/society than to do nothing. We do not elect governments to do nothing. Any bunch of idiots can maintain the status quo. Labor’s problem is that it tried to do too much in a hurry, and cocked up a good deal of it. The pink batts scheme was a great idea but was not done the right way. Changes like these are needed but should be measured and thoughtful and careful. Always be mindful that good intentions only go so far and the law of unintended consequences can return to bite you in the a***!

  9. Ray Dixon says:

    Channel Ten’s ‘The Project’ is a typical Gen Y fun and games approach to the news, none of which favours the Coalition.

    None of which favours anyone. Do you really take that show seriously, GD? No one else does. LMAO.

  10. richard ryan says:

    Liberal Party Mantra. ” To them that have, more shall be given, to them who have not, it will be taken away” (Mathew 25,13-30) Don’t blame me I did not vote for the mother f^ckers.

  11. richard ryan says:

    Tony Abbott is a mother f^cking liar——and I hope he burns in hell.

  12. GD says:

    The ALP still thinks that its only problem is that the voters are not “understanding” its message when the real problem is that time and again when in government they just can’t run any of the grand schemes that they dream up. They are always in a mad rush to “do” things quickly rather than well

    Iain, that ‘mad rush to do things quickly’ has meant that Australia, thank to Labor, now has the largest debt in our history. The interest payments are such that hospitals could be built with those interest payments.

    http://www.australiandebtclock.com.au

    http://barnabyisright.com/resources-articles/can-we-even-pay-the-interest/

    Ray snorted:

    even if they have problems with them like the insulation program. Which, btw, was not Labor’s fault.

    Oh come on Ray, have you never heard the phrase ‘the buck stops here’?

    Labor, Rudd, thought up the idea and spent taxpayer dollars putting it into action. Labor and Rudd are accountable for the deaths of the men and the failure of the scheme.

    Ray also ranted:

    at least Labor spends it on things you can see, feel and touch. Things that matter.

    Ray, name one thing that Labor has spent (our) money on that has come to fruition, or one ‘we can see, feel and touch’. Name just one.

  13. Iain Hall says:

    Ray, name one thing that Labor has spent (our) money on that has come to fruition (and has enduring value), or one ‘we can see, feel and touch’. Name just one.

    My suggested addition 😉 GD

  14. GD says:

    Ray, name one thing that Labor has spent (our) money on that has come to fruition (and has enduring value), or one ‘we can see, feel and touch’. Name just one.

    Precisely, Iain 🙂

    I notice the Sandpit leftists haven’t stood up for this latest idiocy from the Labor Party.

  15. Ray Dixon says:

    name one thing that Labor has spent (our) money on that has come to fruition, or one ‘we can see, feel and touch’. Name just one

    I could name hundreds but, okay, if you only want one, just go outside and walk to your nearest primary or secondary school.

  16. Ray Dixon says:

    Oh, you’ve edited your question (at Iain’s suggestion), GD?

    name one thing that Labor has spent (our) money on that has come to fruition (and has enduring value), or one ‘we can see, feel and touch’. Name just one.

    Well I guess the one I gave you is valued by school children & their parents and will be around for a while.

    I notice the Sandpit leftists haven’t stood up for this latest idiocy from the Labor Party

    Definition of a ‘Sandpit Leftist’: Anyone not out there on the extreme right with GD.

  17. GD says:

    I could name hundreds but, okay, if you only want one, just go outside and walk to your nearest primary or secondary school.

    err, Ray, primary and secondary schools
    have been established in Australia since 1848, long before the existence of the Labor Party.

    Australia’s first public schools were not established until 1848, but the history of children’s education in this country goes back to the early days of settlement

    Perhaps you’re referring to Labor’s failed ‘Education Revolution‘.

    The taskforce reviewing Labor’s troubled $16 billion ‘Building the Education Revolution’ scheme has recommended the program cease in its current form.

    Even as far back as 2010 it was evident that Labor’s so-called ‘education revolution’ was nothing more than grandstanding and a further example of unnecessary waste.

    Money was overspent and misspent on unwanted, useless additions to schools that would have benefited far more from improved heating and cooling.

    A recent New South Wales parliamentary inquiry revealed a number of such examples involving country schools.

    * $600,000 was spent on a canteen at Tottenham Central School in the central west that is too small and unusable.

    * $310,000 was spent on a library at Urana Central School in the Riverina that’s too small. The school could have had a bigger library built for nearly half the cost.

    * $892,000 was spent on two classrooms at Eungai Public School on the mid north coast. The school says the cost should have been about $400,000. The school wanted a multi-purpose hall instead, but was told it was too small.

    * The Alstonville Public School on the north coast was to get a new hall and a two room modular classroom. It ended up with a hall that was too small, a covered learning area and no classroom building.

    * Government approved suppliers and contractors charged $230,000 in design and building management costs to renovate a hall and refurbish a toilet block at the Henty Public School in the Riverina. A nearby private school was charged only $28,000 by a local builder and suppliers for a similar project.

    Geez, Ray, you’ve gotta do better than that.

    As for ‘hundreds’, old son, you’re dreaming’ or delusional.

  18. Ray Dixon says:

    The point is GD, they built them. The money that was spent was not wasted, it went into the economy, as was the intent. You seem to forget (or not comprehend) that there was this worldwide financial emergency back then and we had to respond by boosting spending and confidence. You are a living example of how Labor saved Australia’s economy. They kept you off the streets busking for falafels, but if Abbott had been PM in 2008/9 you’d be in the soup kitchen lines with no customers for your business and no dole either.

  19. GD says:

    if Abbott had been PM in 2008/9 you’d be in the soup kitchen lines with no customers for your business and no dole either

    That’s pure fantasy Ray and you know it. The Howard surplus and the mining boom were far more instrumental in helping Australia stave off the effects of the GFC than Rudd’s cash splash; I’ve previously posted the links. Major retailers such as Gerry Harvey acknowledged the positive stimulus of the handouts, but declared that the economic stimulus lasted for only one month, after that it was back to business as usual.

    If the so-called ‘education revolution’ was so good why did the BER taskforce find ‘very valid concerns’ with Labor’s schools building stimulus program and recommend that it be discontinued?

    if Abbott had been PM in 2008/9 you’d be in the soup kitchen lines with no customers for your business and no dole either

    Really Ray? Under an Abbott government middle class sole traders would be lining up at ‘soup kitchens’ with Centrelink unemployment benefits abolished?

    As I just said, that’s pure fantasy Ray and you know it.

    I could name hundreds

    Once again, pure fantasy.

    Labor doesn’t ‘do things’, it botches things and wastes an obscene amount of tax-payer’s money in the process.

    Keep dreaming Ray, your lot will be in opposition for a long time.

  20. Ray Dixon says:

    GD, you proved before that when it comes to the subject of economics (macro or micro) you’re way out of your depth. Let me explain a basic principle of cause & effect: When the Govt injects a stimulus package of $30 to $40 billion into the economy over about a 2 year period via a variety of projects and even by direct taxpayer handouts, it works its way through the entire economy far beyond Gerry Harvey’s crappy retail stores. The vast majority of that money stays in the country (only a small percentage ends up in the hands of overseas goods suppliers) and provides liquidity, confidence, jobs and growth. That’s what Rudd did. And that’s what the Coalition opposed. Ergo, you’d have been (still) busking for a crust if it weren’t for Labor.

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