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Bill Shorten accused of raping 16-year-old girl in 1986. Victorian police are investigating

Hmm an interesting story that makes me think about the stories of Tony Abbott’s alleged indiscretions when he was at university…

Kangaroo Court of Australia

The Victorian police are currently investigating ALP Leader Bill Shorten for raping a 16-year-old girl in 1986. The mainstream media reported earlier this month that a “Senior ALP figure” was being investigated for rape but failed to name Bill Shorten although there is nothing to stop them from doing so.

Given Mr Shorten’s position as a potential Prime Minister every Australian has a right to know about the police investigation and we should expect a fully detailed explanation from Mr Shorten immediately. Failing that he should resign. His current tactics of hiding behind a lawyer and barrister will not do.

The average person can and do get named by the media all the time when serious allegations are made against them and even more so when the police are investigating. So what makes Bill Shorten so special?

Background

The alleged victim started looking for help online in about mid-September which seems…

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22 Comments

  1. Andrew Howard says:

    This is different. Shorten only entered parliament in 2007 and thus there are grounds for this not coming out into the open before now. Woman is named XXXXXXXXXXXX# and is a nurse working on the central coast of NSW. She first brought this up on facebook Sep 13.

    #Name redacted by site owner

  2. Ray Dixon says:

    Actually, Iain, I hope it’s true because I seriously believe Shorten was the wrong choice as leader. However, I doubt there’s much to this at all. To start with, putting the accusation on Rudd’s Facebook straight after the election and while Shorten was readying himself to run for leader is all a bit – how you say? – suspect?

    But I’m puzzled by your take on this:

    ….. makes me think about the stories of Tony Abbott’s alleged indiscretions when he was at university…

    I fail to see what the relevance is there, Iain. Abbott was a known aggressor towards women but I don’t think he was ever accused of rape. You gotta admit, this story seems reeeeeeaaaaaaally far fetched (and stretched).

  3. allan usherwood says:

    Nothing suprises me about Shoren Curlies He is a grub and he has a lot to answer for, AWU scandal alleged pregnancies with his staff now an alleged rape, sounds parr for the course from our Labor leader,I think a better choice would have been the most popular one with the Labor members but trust the Caucus to back a loser.What a bloody shambles the opposition is. Labor Eddie Obied Julia Gillard,Craig Thomson The list goes on.

  4. Iain Hall says:

    Ray

    I see a similarity here because both accusations refer to events that are alleged to have happened many years ago and for which there will be no evidence apart from the recollections of the complainants. These sort of allegations are essentially unprovable to any legal standard, because they are the archetypical “he said she said” scenario.

  5. Ray Dixon says:

    Oh, I agree with that, Iain.

  6. Iain Hall says:

    Good to hear Ray 😉

  7. Iain Hall says:

    Good to hear 😉

  8. gbe says:

    Surely the real issue here is the failure of main stream media to mention Shorten as the ALP figure under investigation there is no legal reason to suppress his name. Imagine if it was a Barnaby or a Tony it would be STOP THE PRESS !!

    I have written to the tax payers ABC in complaint about their version of what constitutes PUBLIC INTEREST I urge more blogger ‘s to doing the same.

  9. GD says:

    What a bloody shambles the opposition is. Labor Eddie Obied Julia Gillard,Craig Thomson The list goes on

    Thankfully they’re in opposition and will be for a long time. Unfortunately it’s going to take a long time to repair the damage they did during the last six years.

  10. GD says:

    Abbott was a known aggressor towards women

    And your evidence/proof of that is?

    Ray, your hatred of Abbott is clouding your ability to see the political landscape clearly.

    Bit like the ABC really.

    Perhaps you should change the channel.

  11. Ray Dixon says:

    It’s the News Ltd owned Australian who first supressed the name of the politician, not the ABC.

    As for your comment, GD, my claim that Abbott is a “known aggressor towards women”, does not reflect “hatred”. I don’t deal in emotions when it comes to politics (unlike you), I deal in facts. Fact: Abbott has a history of being aggressive towards females in politics. Proof? Oh, the Nicola Roxon debate in 07 comes to mind. One of many such incidents.

  12. Bushy says:

    As I recall that “debate” it was Roxon who initiated the exchange and Abbott’s only response was “Bullshit, Nicolsa”. Hardly aggressive is it? More evidence please and don’t just quote the luvvies.

  13. Iain Hall says:

    I think if anything the Roxon incident shows that Abbott is a thoroughly modern man who does not show undue deference to his interlocutors just because they are female. If women want to be equals to men in politics then they must likewise reject being more gently treated just because of their gender.

  14. Ray Dixon says:

    Abbott arrived 30 minutes+ late for the televised debate with Nicola Roxon in the 2007 election campaign, did not apologise and proceeded to act like a pig throughout. It was quite clear that his attitude was “it’s just a woman, why should I bother?”. That’s the “evidence” of that one per se. Okay, that’s my opinion of what happened and anyone pre-disposed to Abbott (as you two obviously are) would deny it happened that way. But it did. Tony Abbott has tried very hard since becoming opposition leader in 09 to mend his ways, or at least appear to be more tolerant of women, and to a large extent he’s succeeded in changing his image – I’ll give him that. But underneath it all, well, what can I say? … maybe Gillard got him right after all? He’s a neanderthal, guys. A 50s throwback.

  15. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    I don’t remember the details of that incident but there is just no way that you can attribute any particular reason for Abbott’s terseness with Roxon, it could have been a million different things.
    As for the fifties being a bad era with an unacceptable ethos, well that is very debatable and depends very much on what you really know about the time and precisely where on the planet you are talking about.

  16. Ray Dixon says:

    it could have been a million different things

    The perception (in this case) was probably closer to the truth, Iain – i.e. Abbott felt debating Roxon was ‘beneath him’.

    And I know a fair bit about the 50s, Iain, and it was a very constricted era in Australia (which is the part of “the planet” that’s relevant here).

  17. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    You may think that Abbott thought that debating Roxon was “beneath him” but that is nothing more than your specualtions entirely informed by your own confirmation bias against Tony Abbott.

    And I know a fair bit about the 50s, Iain, and it was a very constricted era in Australia (which is the part of “the planet” that’s relevant here).

    I was born in the fifties Ray and I remember the the attitudes and ethos from that time as they were still evident in my childhood to be frank they were not perfect but then they were not really that much worse than the decades that followed either, Some things were better, like many of the social graces, and some things were worse like the attitudes to race and gender. However you are in error to think that Tony Abbott is in any sense hankering after the fifties.

  18. Ray Dixon says:

    Well Iain, at least it got your attention off little Bill’s ‘sex with a 16 y.o.’.

  19. Mantaray says:

    Wouldn’t debating Roxon (remember this is NICOLA Roxon FFS) be beneath ANYONE, male or female Ray?

    Something like debating the next door neighbour’s Goldfish?

  20. Ray Dixon says:

    Wouldn’t debating Roxon (remember this is NICOLA Roxon FFS) be beneath ANYONE

    Maybe it would be (I think Roxon’s a lightweight), but the fact is Abbott was the Federal Health Minister at the time, had agreed to the debate and should have at least treated her with respect. He didn’t.

  21. GD says:

    I think Roxon’s a lightweight

    Ray the whole previous Labor ministry was lightweight. Lightweight and wrong-footed. Every step they took was wrong or a stumble.

    Now this newest socialist Labor regime already has its leader accused of rape.

    Add that to the previous litany of sins:

    Gillard’s AWU scandal, Craig Thompson’s continually delayed trial and former HSU boss Michael Williamson’s admitted massive fraud, and you have a Labor/union cabal that was clearly not working in the best interests of mainstream Australia.

    And all you’ve got to ‘prove’ that

    Abbott was a known aggressor towards women

    is an imagined punch at wall, 30 years ago,and your opinion that Abbott responded improperly to a Labor minister in a debate while he was a minister of a previous government.

    You’ve lost the plot.

  22. Ray Dixon says:

    You’ve lost the plot

    No GD, you’ve “lost the plot”. Abbott was the Minister at the time and Roxon was in opposition. Do try to keep up.

    You’ve also lost the plot because your precious Coalition government has proven itself – within a few short months – to be totally inept and without policy, direction or any idea how to run the country. Please tell me how we’re any better off having this lot in charge. The reality is they’re a bunch of no hopers. Well done, mate. How’s Fiona going?

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