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Peter Beattie and that telling grin

Yesterday I was a man on a mission off to the wilds to pick up an engine and a gearbox for my Morris project, these are not the parts that I will actually use in the car, rather they are just parts that I have borrowed from my long suffering brother to work out  the mountings and other details of the installation in my car. Anyway it was that away mission that found me missing out on the Peter Beattie chapter of the sad and sorry saga  of the Federal Labor party yesterday .  Unlike my other regular commentators I know Beattie pretty well, in fact when I was a student  he used to be a regular at the Mexican restaurant that I worked at in Milton. So I can honestly say that I have known of him well before he even rose to star status up here in Queensland. and to be honest I have always thought that he is a “good bloke”. So when I heard on the radio that he was going to stand in Forde for the ALP my initial reaction was to think that he could be a good man to have in the parliament.

Then I gave the matter some thought and I was a little less sure. You see I began  to remember that this good bloke had made a few rather big calls that were less than wonderful. Things like privatising electricity distribution which promised a new era of lower energy prices (my current bill in next to me on the desk ere and its twice what it was this time last year ) I remember too that while he was a competent Premier he steeped down so that Anna Bligh could become premier and she was a bloody disaster creating the financial mess that Campbell Newman is working so hard to fix even though it is at the cost of his popularity.   Then there is his famous “water grid” a net work of pipelines pumping stations and water recycling systems that was built during the last big  decade long drought that we endured.  The idea may yet prove to be of value should we have another long dry spell but now that the weather has swung back to its more normal rain fall levels its hard to see the whole thing as anything other than a global warming hysteria white elephant, which, like the mega expensive desalination plant at Tugan  on the Gold Coast just sits idle.

 Former Queensland premier Peter Beattie, with his wife, Heather, announces his Labor candidacy for a Brisbane seat yesterday. Picture: Lyndon Mechielsen Source: TheAustralian

Former Queensland premier Peter Beattie, with his wife, Heather, announces his Labor candidacy for a Brisbane seat yesterday. Picture: Lyndon Mechielsen Source: TheAustralian

Beattie is without doubt a consummate media performer he is an utter and unashamed “media tart” who can play the “chooks” with the sort of talent that most political candidates enviously aspire to. He even leaves the would be Labor Messiah  Kevin Rudd for  dead in his ability to play the media to his political advantage, however he does have one very obvious “tell” when what he is doing is a bit  less than sincere and that is his tendency to crack the biggest toothy and undimable smile when he is playing the media game. Its like some part of him is self-conscious of t he stunt  and he then over compensates in trying to sell the contrived message. That  “tell” was very much in evidence yesterday at the media  appearances that he put in with Rudd. He was trying just a bit too hard to prove how much he endorsed the new again Dear Leader even though it was only a matter of a couple of months ago that he was dressing Rudd down for destabilising Gillard.

What it boils down to for me is that while at an emotional level  I like the man, and I even respect him for his time as premier I just don’t think that he is as sincere about his enthusiasm for federal politics. You know how I see politics as a game? Well deep down I think that Peter Beattie does as well and he is playing this move for all that its worth. He may even win the seat but if he doesn’t then I think that he will still  enjoy the journey , if he does win Forde then The ALP may benefit from having a “good bloke” in its parliamentary ranks but I can’t see the faux friendship with Rudd lasting long  into either Government or opposition after September 7.

Cheers Comrades

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51 Comments

  1. Richard Ryan says:

    Yes Iain! Be afraid,be very afraid, Beattie is back in town. Anyway it puts Rupert Murdoch in the back ground for the time being, which is not a bad thing.

  2. Iain Hall says:

    Richard
    I have absolutely no reason to be afraid

  3. Ray Dixon says:

    As I said on the other post, Iain, I think Beattie is just there to shore up support for Labor in Queensland. It’s a tactic for certain and I don’t believe he’s in it for the long haul – he even admitted yesterday that he’s only thinking of one term in Parliament. That said, I think it’s a good move by Rudd and shows that he’s turning the party on its head by burying the old hatchets. It’s actually a sign of unity. As for Beattie’s record as Premier, well, if all you can condemn him for is electricity prices (which is a national problem not unique to Queensland) and providing a back up, emergency water infrastructure system (how very dare he be prudent and cautious), then you ain’t got much to criticise him for. Oh, but I agree with you about that Chesire cat grin – it’s so fake. Still, he’s an asset to the ALP.

  4. James says:

    http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/court-ends-nuttalls-appeal-bid/story-e6frfku9-1226694047780

    Court ends Nuttall’s appeal bid

    DISGRACED former Queensland minister Gordon Nuttall has lost his bid to appeal his corruption conviction.

    Mr Nuttall went to the Court of Appeal last month, seeking an extension of time for an appeal.

    He is currently serving a 14-year jail term for perjury, corruption and receiving secret commissions.

    On Friday the Court of Appeal refused his application to appeal against his corruption conviction.

    Another of Peter Beatties legacies. I suppose he was hoping to get out and run Beatties election campaign, take up the position as CEO of Peter Beatties De Sal plant, or maybe chief of Beatties water works scam; Head up an aurthority to de-amalgamate Beatties amalgamated Councils … no Ray not much to p[in on Peter Beattie. 😆

  5. Iain Hall says:

    Ray its a desperate move from Rudd, despite his “charm offensive” Labor is not making any headway so I will be extremely surprised if he manages to win Forde let alone improve the odds in any other seat. You forget how on the nose State Labor is still even though some of Campbell Newman’s sadly necessary remedial actions are not universally popular.

  6. Iain Hall says:

    Yes James its fair to add the corruption in Queensland Labor into the mix although I don’t think that Beattie had any personal guilt on that score. Even so how many governments have so many ex MPs in Jail?

  7. James says:

    Yes, Nutall was just one of a bunch. Rudd/Beattie Labor federally could be mounting a challenge though, we still have to see where Labor/Independent Thomson ends up and then of course there’s the Labor adoptee Slippery’s new digs to be worked out….

    Oh and by the way, how are the Beattie legacy water bills totalling up and of course we won’t even go near your electricity bills courtersy of Beatties sell off, in fact we’ll use his own words on that subject; quote: “Ït had been a mistake to sell electricity assets”. and this “Anyone who thinks privatisation is the panacea for prices is cuckoo”.

  8. Ray Dixon says:

    While you guys keep focusing on Beattie it just sounds like you’re mighty worried about the possibility that Rudd might yet win this election. One thing seems certain, they’ll pick up some seats in QLD – it just depends how many. I don’t envy your position over the next 4 weeks and I think you might be getting rather edgy. Try Bex. Or valium.

  9. James says:

    Ray Ray, clam down, you’re starting to sound like someone from Rudd/Beattie campaign headquarters is penning your lines for you. Mate your two self professed media Hogwarts don’t concern me at all in themselves, but it’s the thought of Rudd/Beattie working behind closed doors on schemes that might effect me and the rest of Australians like ‘Brigalow Corporation’ acts that could take away my constitutional rights.

  10. Ray Dixon says:

    I’m not the one who needs to “calm down” James – it’s you who seems to be paranoid about what ‘Big Bad Kevin & Peter’ might do to your “constitutional rights”.

    Perhaps, if the o-so-democratic Coalition loses and we face another 3 years of Labor, you should join or start up a ‘Let’s take Australia back for real Aussies’ revolutionary group. You know, take up arms and fight for your “constitutional rights”, if you really believe your freedom is threatened.

    Me, I’m not the slightest bit concerned who wins the election, I’m just glad that Rudd has made the ALP competitive again, meaning we won’t have one party with an overwhelming majority. If you really believe in democracy too, you should also be pleased that we now have equally competing political parties. Apparently (or so it seems) you’d rather a one-party-fits-all conservative dictatorship – otherwise you’d understand why not everyone who doesn’t vote coalition is a fool.

  11. Tony says:

    Wow Ray,
    that has to be the most common sense post I have seen you make in the short time being here.
    Good stuff.
    Wasn’t that hard was it ?
    😉

    What’s more, for what it’s worth, I agree with you.

  12. Ray Dixon says:

    Oh great. When you two revert to this kind of mockery I know you’re all out of argument … and pretty worried about your precious Abbott’s chances.

    Why do you do it? It’s pathetic.

  13. Iain Hall says:

    Ray I think that there is nothing wrong with pointing out that Rudd et al are not seen the way that you see them with your Labor coloured spectacles

  14. GD says:

    Labor sure is sending in the clowns. Under Beatties’ watch, Qld Labor ran up a huge deficit.

    The laughing clown privatised the electricity supply, guaranteeing Queenslanders a lower price for electricity. He later admitted that was a mistake.

    He fell hook, line and sinker for Tim Flannery’s wild claim that Brisbane’s dams would never again be filled. The result being a useless but costly desal plant and a misguided approach to the management of existing dams and subsequent flood mitigation.

    As Iain mentioned, he amalgamated councils to save money. The result was a huge increase in rates charges for homeowners.

    Beattie bailed in 2007 leaving Anna Bligh with the financial mess. QLD subsequently lost its AAA credit rating in 2009.

    Since the Rudd coup of 2013, Labor has lost half of its front bench. Add to that the parachuting in of failed Labor premiers and what we have is a party in disarray.

    Rudd promised a ‘new way’ when choosing candidates for pre-selection involving the rank and file members of the party. How quickly did that resolution disappear?

    Labor is a party that stands for nothing other than re-election. With an astronomical and historic foreign debt of $300 billion they are asking Australians to give them another term, with no respite in sight as they continue to borrow on a daily basis.

    If Rudd and his show ponies are re-elected by the personality worshipping public, when can we expect Labor to rein in the deficit and begin paying back the debt?

    The Australian warns that with Kevin’s help we can kiss AAA goodbye.

    Einstein’s definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

    That sounds like Labor’s maxim.

  15. Ray Dixon says:

    You guys are so focused on rubbishing Rudd & Labor that you seem to have overlooked the latest Fairfax poll that now puts the Coalition ahead 52-48 on a 2-party preferred (their previous poll was 50-50).

    I’m not surprised by this result and I put it down to the ‘mini budget’ announcements and budget measures recently announced such as the hike in cigarettes. Those cost of living increases have hurt Rudd’s re-election hopes and it’s no wonder he wanted to get it out of the way early in the campaign. Whether the gap can be clawed back is now largely up to how Abbott performs over the next 4 weeks and whether or not his economic policies are (a) announced (b) verified (c) pass muster.

    In other words, I think the election is now Abbott’s to lose and the focus will shift on to whether or not he offers a viable economic alternative.

    I think the gap will narrow closer to 50-50 by election time but it’s still an uphill battle for Labor to win. Remember, the Coalition will be effectively starting with a majority of 76 seats given they’re almost certain to win the seats being vacated by Windsor & Oakeshott and given Katter is again likely to support Abbott. So Labor actually needs to win seats off the Coalition and that’s a very big ask. At least Rudd’s return has saved Labor from a wipeout and, while I haven’t yet given up hope and conceded, I reckon deep down they know they’re pushing shit up hill from now on.

    So tell me how Abbott will be any better? What’s that, you can’t tell me because he hasn’t detailed his economic policies yet?

  16. Tony says:

    I think you’re right Ray, (Geez, I hope we don’t make a habit of this, no fun in that ? ;); it certainly is Abbott’s to lose, and by his no campaign campain so far, he is fast doing exactly that.

    I, like many others, thought, that as soon as the election was announced, the media would be flooded with lib ads. Instead ? all we are getting, here at least, is more Palmer ads than both parties combined ? Can’t figure that out 😆

    A thought to bring everyone back to reality here, one warning for all ?

    How the hell can Abbott rescind the Carbon Tax, when it is, and has been for months, been part of our tax regime ?

    Look at what has happened with our electricity bills for a prime example ? There is no way he can wind that thing back now, no way. For him to say that he can, is a bloody big furfy ! The tax filters down to everything now. Electricity, everthing that uses power, even pensions that have been supposedly compensated for the massive increases. It would be a bureaucratic bloody nightmare to try and wind back.

    Abbott’s selling us out, and fast losing the unlosable here. I know he is losing me fast, and I consider myself one of the many, that have to be converted for him to win. If I am sniffing at the “something stinks in lib land” claytons campaign, imagine the other three million odd swinging voters needed, by either party to win this circus ?

    Thoughts anyone ?
    😉

  17. Iain Hall says:

    Tony
    The facts of the matter are that ads do not win elections although they do add to the colour and movement of them mostly they are liked or despised depending upon the confirmation bias of the watchers. As for palmer’s ads I have yet to see a single one and I doubt very much that the vanity party will win a single seat because I don;t think that anyone wants to see another hung parliament and voting for a minor party or and independent is likely to give us precisely that. More ads does not of necessity make for a more successful campaign. As Anna Bligh found out up here in Queensland.

    When it comes to the carbon tax it is like anything created in the parliament insofar as it can be undone by the parliament as easily as it was created and as Abbott has steadfastly insisted for as long as he has been the coalition leader he will repeal it. On my power bill it is a line item so I have no trouble expecting that there will be at the very least a moral imperative for our bills to be reduced when the tax is no more even if mandating its removal from our bills is not part of the repeal legislation.

    Ray

    So tell me how Abbott will be any better? What’s that, you can’t tell me because he hasn’t detailed his economic policies yet?

    It will be orders of magnitude better just to have grown ups who can add up and balance the books even before we get to sorting out Labor stuff ups like the NBN

  18. Ray Dixon says:

    Iain, that’s the problem with the Coalition – no details. You, as a rusted-on supporter might be happy with that sort of blind-faith rhetoric, but most voters will not be and will want answers. Specific, detailed & costed answers. It remains to be seen if Abbott has any.

  19. James says:

    Until such time as the TRUE situation of the finances of this Government, this country can be abtained, the LNP would be fools to start doing Juliars and offering this that and the other over the top expenditure items. They have as has been pointed out time and time again Ray and whopper of a debt accumulated by you know who to factor in.

  20. James says:

    This I think equates to the un ravelling of Labor before we even get to the polls, and for once KRudd can’t blame Tony, which is their usual line, although, I guess they will try to find a way to do so: Geoff Lake, the candidate for Victorian seat of Hotham, and Queensland candidate Ken Robertson dumped this evening for conduct un-becoming. 🙄

  21. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    Tell me what the Detailed Labor policies are please because while you may scoff at the coalition for a lack of policy detail (even though they have spent the better part of the last three years enunciating their policies) when it comes to the ALP Rudd has essentially taken a massive swipe at Julia’s white board which means that the ALP has Squat (gotta) Zip, nada, nothing except: “trust me I’m Kevin and I’m here to help (myself)”

  22. Tony says:

    You guys are wondering about the lack of policies from both sides.
    I have said, right from the start of this charade, and no one has listened ?
    There can’t be any major policy announcements in this campaign, simply, because there is no money in the bank to pay for them !

    Regardless of what we hear the next few weeks, where is either side going to get the money from, when they are so supposedly hell bent on reducing our massive debt and deficit ?

    Don’t get sucked in, it’s not all that difficult really !

  23. Ray Dixon says:

    Tell me what the Detailed Labor policies are please

    Iain, The government’s ECONOMIC policies (the ones I’m talking about – the ones that matter) are a matter of public record. They are in the budget. They are in Hansard and they have been reported in every newspaper. Abbott still hasn’t (and won’t) release his costings. He never does … because he’s a liar and can’t be trusted.

  24. James says:

    Now hold on a minute there Ray, I think you are a little confused their, it was Julia Gillard that said “There will be no carbon tax under a Government I lead”, not Tony Abbott, although Labor blame all their lies on Tony, although they now seem to blame Murdock for most during the past week.

  25. Ray Dixon says:

    Who is Julia Gillard? Please keep up to date.

    And Abbott needs to produce his figures. Waiting ……………………….

  26. GD says:

    The government’s ECONOMIC policies (the ones I’m talking about – the ones that matter) are a matter of public record. They are in the budget. They are in Hansard and they have been reported in every newspaper.

    Perhaps you could quickly reel them off? You know, save us a bit of time, especially as you’re so sure of these policies. All I’ve seen are pie in the sky promises underpinned by nothing more than further overseas borrowing.

  27. James says:

    Who is Julia Gillard? Please keep up to date.

    Yes that’s one of Labor’s big policies, the one where they hope people will forget the immediate past. 😳

  28. Ray Dixon says:

    I don’t need to “reel them off”, GD – they are a matter of public record (very public) and you must have been living under a rock if you’re not aware of Labor’s detailed economic policies.

    The point is (the one you’re avoiding), Abbott has not detailed his economic policies. You know, the spending and the cuts etc. Not a thing. Just rhetoric and “you can do the arithmetic” quotes.

    As I suggested earlier, that is where the focus of this campaign is now going – onto the Coalition’s economic alternatives. Labor’s policies and economic plans are on the table for all to see, Abbott’s are only in his imagination. It’s put up or shut up time and your man is the one who needs to answer the questions. Tonight is the start of it.

  29. Tony says:

    And Abbott needs to produce his figures. Waiting ……………………….

    and further Ray ?

    The point is (the one you’re avoiding), Abbott has not detailed his economic policies. You know, the spending and the cuts etc. Not a thing. Just rhetoric and “you can do the arithmetic” quotes.

    C’mon, you really are reaching here.
    You have been round the block a time or two, and know as well as I do, that the libs cannot release their costings, until the RBA release the “true nature of Australia’s” finances, which is their requirement just before an election ?

    Those are the figures that will bring all labor voters, sighing to their knees, and begin their sulking for at least two terms !

    BTW see the labor guy on Bolt this afternoon ? Talking about squriming in a seat. How not to answer a question perhaps ? No answers ? Just like labor when asked the tough questions.

  30. Iain Hall says:

    Well the debate is on in twenty minutes so lets see how they both go in that contest.

  31. Tony says:

    Feel flattered Ian ?
    One of Abbott’s minions must be watching these pages, as the concerns raised re the abolition of the carbon tax, was one of the first cab off the rank ?
    Take a bow ?
    😉 😆

  32. Iain Hall says:

    Well I thought that neither Rudd nor Abbott won a decisive victory in the debate although I did think that Abbott performed better while Rudd was condescending and patronising to the people he was addressing. Abbott won on points though.

  33. James says:

    I give a win to Abbott, it was the best I’ve heard him speak. Interesting figures from the 7 network on the debate TA 68% KR 32% One the question of who will be the next PM TA 72% to KR 28%.

    ABC commentators overall also gave the debate to TA

  34. James says:

    Late addition to that ABC viewers poll Abbott won the debate 72% to 28%. I guess the experiment with KR – Mr Sheen back in the job is, that he isn’t exactly cleaning up like some thought he might. 😆

  35. Tony says:

    Rudd was much smoother in his presentation, but to this voter, he didn’t seem sincere and at all passionate about it all ?
    Abbott a lot less eloquent, but more effective. But not too much in it.
    For my money, too much interference and comments by the commentators/moderators ?

    By the viewer poll, at least it can be seen that, finally, at least the aussie voter is beginning to finally learn how to see through the spin ?

  36. GD says:

    I guess the experiment with KR – Mr Sheen back in the job is, that he isn’t exactly cleaning up like some thought he might.

    well put 🙂

  37. GD says:

    Abbott…never does … because he’s a liar and can’t be trusted

    Ray, what has Abbott lied about? What, on a matter of trust, has he failed the electorate on?

    I think you’ve mixed up Labor with your irrational hatred of Tony Abbott.

  38. Tony says:

    Reiterates what I was saying above doesn’t it ?
    No matter how smooth Rudd was, he was not coming out with anything that, would change my mind.
    Actually, he didn’t come out with anything, apart for fear and more fear. Death of China, death of resources boom, carbon tax nonsense, and nothing about how he was going to service, and more importantly, pay back the massive debt/defecit that is looming once those rba figures are released ?

    But, it is a long campaign, and we are only in the beginning of it.
    If this is Rudd’s honeymoon period, oops, looks like there is a quickie divorce on the not so distant horizon perhaps ?
    😉

  39. Tony says:

    btw iain, read the above link of yours, and looks like the opinion there is similar ?

  40. GD says:

    After all the taunting by Rudd for Abbott to debate him and then Rudd turns up with notes. Truly pathetic 😦

    Labor’s already lost it, and Rudd’s losing it big time.

  41. rjryan says:

    IN your dreams GD,—–Abbott will never be leader of this country.

  42. Iain Hall says:

    Well unless things change very soon Richard you are totally wrong (as usual)

  43. Tony says:

    I also thought the bringing of notes was poor form GD, and something that wasn’t allowed ?
    Shows, to me anyway, that Rudd didn’t have a clue about the facts, about the questions he knew he was going to be asked, and also looked like he really didn’t care too much either way if he was caught not knowing them ? He must have thought his silver tongue would see him right ? 😆

    I said some time ago, that if Rudd came back, I may consider voting for him, but as a swinging voter, after last night, no hope as far as I am concerned. I am just one voter, there are absolutely millions of swinging voters out there, probably feeling the same suspicion ?

  44. Ray Dixon says:

    I thought the debate was a boring NIL ALL DRAW. No winner, no loser. Effectively though, that means Abbott came out ahead, as it was up to Rudd to land some big blows on him, and he didn’t.

    Abbott didn’t impress a lot either but he didn’t need to – his party leads in the opinion polls and already has an effective majority going into the election (given the coalition will surely pick up Windsor’s & Oakeshott’s former seats).

    As I said recently, the election is Abbott’s to lose. Rudd has made the early running but I don’t think there’s much more he can do and what he will be hoping for now is for Abbott to make a giant gaffe or two and kick an own goal. That’s still a possibility but looking unlikely. Abbott would make a mistake though, to think he can just coast in to victory and say very little. That would work against him too.

    It’s not over but it’s looking nigh-on imppossible for Labor unless they hold all their seats in Victoria and Tassie and then win seats in Qld. I doubt they’ll win but at least Rudd has saved them from oblivion.

  45. Tony says:

    At least Abbott didn’t have to resort to “cheat notes” Ray.
    Never, ever, done before, in a leaders debate ?
    Rudd lost any respect I had for him, when he pulled that little stunt.

    The election will probably be decided in Tasmania, as it always has it recent decades.
    Tell you one thing, after the phoney coalition between the Greens and Labor down there, they hate labor’s guts.
    That’s the ball game as far as I can see it.

    As for oblivion, you may be right, but it is a LONG campaign, and there are another couple of debates aren’t there ?
    As for Abbott, you are most suredly right, but, the hatred of labor by the electorate would pretty much exhonerate Abbott with a gold pass, for any gaffe he may make in the future.

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  48. Mark Anthony Pearce says:

    Beattie is no chance in Forde. He has too much baggage – the Merri Rose case and the Gillespie diaries.
    See this link – http://pickeringpost.com/story/the-diaries-of-peter-beatties-mistress/1842

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