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Careful what you wish for, because you may well be unlucky enough to get your wish


To the Labor True Believers  the resurrection of Brother Number One is their last and only chance to0 have some hope that all is not all lost, Heck I’ve even had one  of them tell me that Labor can win   and boy did I have a giggle about that. As has been predicted by others with in the Labor party the visceral hatred of Brother Number One is the reason that experienced ministers are refusing to serve in any ministry in a government led by Brother Number One. As today’s Age tells us:

An hour before Mr Rudd’s lunchtime media conference on Friday, discussions were still being held with former communications minister Stephen Conroy about rejoining the team.

The ministry was not announced at that time and Mr Rudd is still trying to coax Senator Conroy to serve in his cabinet.

Mr Rudd also wanted Mr Combet in his cabinet, but Mr Combet issued a statement on Saturday saying he would not re-contest his federal seat of Charlton.

‘‘My reasons are personal and are not attributable to the change in the leadership of the Labor Party this week, although this has provided a catalyst for my decision,” he said.

A Labor source close to the ministerial negotiations said the Prime Minister had found it “extremely difficult” to fill his frontbench and the wider ministry.

“It has been a mess,” the source said.

“He’s had a knock-back or two; let’s put it that way. The talent pool has shrunk, and those who are left don’t all want to work with Kevin.”

Another senior Labor operative said: “You have had resignations and retirements. That is before you get to balancing representations in the ministry across the states, the factions and genders.

“And then there’s the rewarding of supporters. But it hasn’t gone to plan.”

One Labor MP said emotions were still high following Wednesday’s axing of Ms Gillard, which was another factor leading to complications in forming the new ministry.

“It’s pretty raw right now,” the MP said. “The consensus is that we did the right thing in going back to Kevin, but so many of us are feeling quite low about how it all happened.

“Not everyone wants a ministry when we’re so close to an election and we’re worried about our own seats.”
The Prime Minister’s office offered no comment.

What good is it to win the leadership if all that you can put together as your ministry is the “Z” team I look forward to a ministry that is full of political nobodies and back bench seat warmers.I love the fact that no one wants the immigration chalice that Brother Number One personally poisoned 2007. Combet’s resignation makes it eight ministers who have pulled the pin on their political careers . Its high face about a party that has been laid low by the ineptitude of is current and previous leaders. If the Bard was still writing his plays I can’t help thinking that he would make the events of federal politics into a cracking comedy.

Cheers Comrades



  1. Ray Dixon says:

    On the other hand, Iain, “if” Tony Abbott wins the election what luminaries can we look forward to having on his front bench? Let’s see:

    Joe Hockey – whose only achievement is proving that stomach stapling can temporarily reduce weight
    Julie Bishop – the only thing stopping her empty head from caving in is the cans of hairspray holding that do in place.
    Chrissy Pyne – a juvenile.
    Barnaby Joyce – whose main concern about switching to the lower house seat of New England in NSW is whether or not he can still get supplies of Queensland XXXX beer.
    Sophie Mirabella – who should be shot.

    And the list goes on. The point is there’s not a lot of talent or depth there either, Iain

  2. Richard Ryan says:

    AND! Malcolm Turnbull invented the internet, so says Tony Abbott.

  3. Iain Hall says:

    Ray Your prejudices are showing in that last comment.
    However I look forward to you defending the Z team ministry that is due to be announced later today by Brother Number One.
    Its looks to me as if the plan is to go to the Polls as late as he possibly can so that Brother Number One has the most chance of rebuilding Labor’s reputation. I think that his little cavort on the Australian/Indonesian relation ship over turning around the boats is a good indication of his thought bubble with no substance approach to the issue. Frankly you would have thought that if he had a viable solution to the problem he himself created he would have hit the ground running with an indication on how he will discourage illegal immigration in the guise of refugees on boats.

    While its good to see Bob Carr calling a spade a spade on Lateline the other night I can;t see how Brother Number One will have the courage to do something really radical like change the law to make it easier to deport fail claimants, make having destroyed their papers a reason for rejection of a claim, make it clear that NO family reunion will EVER be allowed for those who are deemed to be refugees, further if someone who has been classed as a “refugee” leaves Australia then we don’t let them back in. So Ray do you see him doing what needs to be done on the boats issue? I don’t.

  4. Ray Dixon says:

    Unlike you Iain, I don’t see the boats ‘issue’ as a political one, and certainly not as one that should determine who forms the next government. Both parties do their best and approach the ‘issue’ from different perspectives. The coalition takes a hard line that sets out to punish anyone who tries to gain asylum in Australia, no matter how genuine they might be, whereas the ALP is more humane and, yes, a bit too friendly. Both policies are wrong and there needs to be a middle ground and, more importantly, a bipartisan effort to deal with it. However, as I said, the boats ‘issue’ is not a deal breaker for me, nor for other intelligent voters. I can’t speak for the bogans of Western Sydney though – the brain cells are sparse in that area.

  5. Ray Dixon says:

    And that Tea lady would be a better Minister than Sophie would, GD.

  6. Iain Hall says:

    It always has been and will remain a litmus test of competence and one that Brother Number One has failed miserably for the last six years. Did you miss the things that Bob Car was saying about most asylum seekers not being genuine, that they were almost all “economic migrants” and that the criteria used in tribunals is far too generous? It may not be a deal breaker for those like yourself who want to see an ever expanding population BUT for the people in the seats that will decide the election it certainly is a deal breaker and unless the Labor party can fix the problem they have made on the issue then those lost votes will never come back. Don’t forget that it is the “bogans” who feel economically threatened by these migrants, and its ordinary middle class people who resent the way that these mendicants “game ” the system, thirdly there is the environmental issues of an exponential population growth which is negatively impacted by an unending stream of uninvited migrants

  7. Ray Dixon says:

    Firstly Iain, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that taking in boat people and/or other refugees increases our population above and beyond normal growth. It doesn’t. Even if we somehow ‘stopped the boats’ and admitted no further boat people, our overall migrant intakes would take up the slack and our population growth would remain the same – because we would simply adjust the numbers to the target levels. Once again, you reveal that one of your key objections to boat arrivals is underpinned by your misplaced and economically suicidal belief that we should have ‘zero population growth’.

    Don’t forget that it is the “bogans” who feel economically threatened by these migrants

    I didn’t “forget” that, Iain, and in fact I clearly stated that I can’t speak for the Western Sydney bogans. Although the latest opinion polls seem to suggest the bogans are not so obsessed with Labor’s handling of asylum seekers as you make out. Tony must be worried!

    As for your last point of “the environmental issues of an exponential population growth which is negatively impacted by an unending stream of uninvited migrants”, see above.

  8. GD says:

    Fun quotes:

    “Rudd has not given us policy. What exactly will he change? What will he do to stop the boats he brought in? What will he do to bring the Budget back into order, especially with signs China is slowing? What will he do to stop the blowouts of the NBN? How can he kick-start the non-mining economy? What will he do about the carbon tax, now four times higher than the world price? What exactly are his policies?”

    What exactly are his policies? He’s had three years to come up with at least a hint..

  9. Richard Ryan says:

    “What exactly are his policies?” To bury Tony Abbott once and for all. Now top that, internet maiden!

  10. Richard Ryan says:

    Memo To Tony Abbott: When you were training to be a Catholic Cleric at the seminar, were you aware of pedophiles in the Catholic church.? yes or no.

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