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One for Richard

I dedicate this vid to Richard Ryan, our resident Islamic fan boy who takes great delight at the prospect of the global caliphate.

Cheers Comrades

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25 Comments

  1. Richard Ryan says:

    ” There are signs that Allah will grant victory to Islam in Europe without swords,without guns,without conquest. We don’t need terrorists, we don’t need homicide bombers. The 50+million Muslims (in Europe) will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades” —- Gaddafi

  2. GD says:

    Thank you, Iain for continuing to post these videos by Pat Condell. Even though Islam apologists like Ray Dixon and Islamic sycophants like the cowardly Richard Ryan won’t have the guts to view them, you are nonetheless making an important statement on your blog.

  3. Richard Ryan says:

    Speaking of cowards, UNLIKE GD who uses a screen name to make comments, so as not to effect his music gigs.

  4. Iain Hall says:

    GD

    This channel will also be getting a regular gig here at the Sandpit

    Richard

    You are being typically boring, about GD’s screen name.
    Have you watched Pat Condell’s vid?
    Or the one I post above?

  5. Ray Dixon says:

    Islam apologists like Ray Dixon ….. won’t have the guts to view them

    Firstly GD, I’m not an “Islam apologist”. I don’t apologise for what some Islamic fundamentalists have done in other places around the world and I never have. I don’t “apologise” for their religion either, which I think is backwards and archaic. However, my position has always been that muslims in Australia are not posing any real threat to our security or our way of life and until they do, and until you can point to some tangible evidence that we should ban muslim immigrants, I will continue to oppose your radicalism, your extreme scaremongering and far right-wing views on discriminating against immigrants on the basis of their race, religion or ethnicity. As for suggesting I don’t have the “guts” to view those videos, that is just too stupid for words. It doesn’t take “guts” to view them, it takes bias and fear, two things you seem to possess in abundance.

    This channel will also be getting a regular gig here at the Sandpit

    That’s a shame, Iain, because it makes your blog into nothing more than an extreme anti-muslim site that allows these nutjobs and egomaniacs (who are mainly from overseas) to speak on your behalf. It doesn’t encourage debate & participation, it actually deters it. These videos offer nothing in the way of facts and are by & large just the opinions of some bigheaded bigot who likes the sound of his own voice and you’d only watch them to confirm your own bias. They’re actually dangerous, Iain, because they play to your fears and allow others to do your thinking for you. They’re of no value whatsoever.

  6. Iain Hall says:

    You haven’t actually watched the vid in question have you Ray?

    I like Pat Condell because he is witty and sarcastic and funny he is not any sort of a bigot. The chap in the second vid is likewise the total antithesis of any sort of bigotry. his shtick is to go back to the Koran and to look at precisely what motivates the followers of Allah he does so is a laid back and scholarly style. You really should watch the vid with an open mind because you may just realise that both GD and I are not being at all over the top to be concerned about the pernicious aspects of Islam. Frankly I would have thought that you understand me well enough top appreciate that I don’t let ANYONE do my thinking for me and that I have come to my view of religion in general and Islam in particular after a life time of atheism and the study of belief in the supernatural. I have a great deal of time for believers of all flavours but I draw the line at any and all faiths that call for killing in the name of their vision of God.

  7. Ray Dixon says:

    Iain, any individual who goes to the trouble of putting out videos to preach to the world about the ‘evils’ of others is a friggin’ fruit loop and not worth listening to. Period.

  8. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    I saddens me that you won’t take the trouble to watch that which you condemn because if you did you would find that neither are presented by a “friggin’ fruit loop”.

  9. Ray Dixon says:

    I’m sure he manages to sound quite reasonable, sane and even plausible. Meglomaniacs have a habit of doing that. I repeat: ANYONE who goes to the trouble of releasing self-made, self-authored, self-produced, self-starring, self-directed and self-distributed videos to make a “point” about how someone else is ‘evil’, ‘insane’ or ‘dangerous’, is an egomaniacal fool and an idiot, not worth listening to.

  10. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    In the age of almost universal Web cams its no big deal to make and produce a video , certainly not any different to writing a blog post about a subject that might be of interest to the author. In fact I and many users on YouTube see such posts as being a type of blogging. Thus I don’t look at such clips as being a big production number. In fact neither man in those vids has anything like a complicated production both just use a single fixed camera and no fancy editing or other complicated production tricks. You or I could make our blog posts into vids with just a laptop or web cam, and would that change the message of our posts?

  11. Ray Dixon says:

    Yes Iain, it’s “easy” to make videos – just as easy as it is to set yourself up on a soapbox in a public park and start preaching to passers by. That’s what these blokes are doing. And they have all the credibility of your soap box spruiker of the past. They’re ‘snake oil salesmen’, Iain. And no, I don’t see it as just a form of blogging like you and I do. I see it as going further than that. Much further. Writing a blog post is far more passive and calls for responses and interaction with others, whereas you can’t exactly respond to these videos, can you? They’re just statements of biased opinion put out as fact … and so be it. They therefore generate no response and no participation. It’s like going to a movie – you watch it purely for entertainment and/or to feel good about yourself. Obviously you agree with these spruikers so you watch their videos for a feel good hit and a bit of confirmation bias, Iain. Come on, that’s what it’s about.

  12. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    of course people can comment on YouTube vids when you view them on you tube itself people also make video responses to vids there is a very lively response feed back and participation thing happening; you really need to broaden your understanding of social media mate.

  13. Ray Dixon says:

    Oh yeah, Iain, there’s heaps of “debate” on Youtube. And on Facebook too?

    Yeah, I need to “broaden my horizons” – Youtube & Facebook (and Twitter?) is where it’s at! ….

    Give ….. me ….. a …… break.

  14. Ray Dixon says:

    Furthermore, Iain, even though there’s a forum for responding to Youtube videos on Youtube, I’m yet to see one that amounted to anything resembling a debate. And moreover, how does that translate into using those same videos here, where the author is hardly likely to respond? Face it, you’re using videos in lieu of comment & opinion and thereby stifling debate. All you’re getting is people like GD who agree with the nutjob on the video, applauding and saying “yeah, I agee”. Wow! Seriously, Iain, I reckon these videos of other people’s opinions ain’t blogging.

  15. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    No debate is being stifled at all here I watch a fair few You tube vids on lots of different topics, not just religion or politics, I watch vids about cars just everyday life, gaming Music and sometimes I post all of them here as part of a blog post. some times they work and sometimes they are just ignored.

    Vid makers do respond to comments just as blog writers respond, as individuals some expansively in the thread below the vid and some in subsequent vids.
    Finally instead of just dismissing the vid makers as nut jobs (when you have not watched them) either ignore the posts or actually watch the vids before you pass judgement. Because the way that you commentate on these posts of mine is about as valid as me commenting on the latest rounds of the AFL without ever watching single game.

  16. GD says:

    Because the way that you commentate on these posts of mine is about as valid as me commenting on the latest rounds of the AFL without ever watching single game.

    Beautiful!

  17. GD says:

    Yes Iain, it’s “easy” to make videos – just as easy as it is to set yourself up on a soapbox in a public park and start preaching to passers by.

    No Ray, it’s easier. Try and keep up. Iain is absolutely right. What are you afraid of?

    Finding out that Islam is taking a hold over European society?

    Finding out that Australia is now in danger of the same fate?

    You could read Greg Sheridan’s latest articles in the OZ.

    He explains how, as a result of Kevin Rudd dismantling a robust and stable border security policy, we now have 43,000 ‘refugees’ claiming Centrelink payments. These same ‘refugees’ are in line to claim ‘family reunion’ which will almost double that number. Add to that the fact that, after five years in Australia, over 90% of Afghan and Pakistani ‘refugees’ are still in receipt of Centrelink benefits.

    While the Immigration Department has admitted that it is unable to properly screen this recent influx of ‘supposed’ refugees, Labor has dangerously decided to release these ‘unscreened’ people into the community rather than open more detention centres. As most are young men, unskilled and brought up in the Islamic tradition, it’s unfair to expect Australia to welcome them with open arms and an automatic Centrelink pension.

    Unfortunately, that is exactly what this Labor government is doing.

    Gillard and Rudd have opened the doors to anyone from the Middle East. However they haven’t worked out how to accommodate, educate or even placate the largely unskilled young male influx that is now pouring into Australia.

    Labor has set a cultural time bomb for the Liberals and the rest of Australia.

    As well as the historically highest debt ever incurred by an Australian government.

    Thanks Labor 😦

  18. Ray Dixon says:

    the way that you commentate on these posts of mine (anti-Islam videos I put up in lieu of comment or analysis) is about as valid as me commenting on the latest rounds of the AFL without ever watching single game.

    You’ve actually twisted the analogy, Iain. You and GD like to watch these anti-muslim videos but you both reckon watching AFL is a waste of time. I like to watch AFL and I reckon watching videos of some nobody preaching anti-islamic rhetoric is a waste of time. So the right analogy is as follows:

    The way that you claim I can’t commentate on the worth and veracity of these anti-muslim videos unless I watch every one of them is about as valid as me saying that you & GD can’t commentate on the value of AFL footy without watching every game.

    That’s a much more relevant analogy than yours, Iain, although I notice that GD couldn’t help chiming in with his one-word applause, as per usual. Classic GD – “I agree”. Brilliant – adds so much to the debate.

  19. Richard Ryan says:

    GD gets his rocks off watching anti-Islam videos—I can hear him in the background squealing in sexual arousal. Also hangs off Iain, like a big dag on a sheep’s crutch. Nudge, nudge anything you say Iain—–yes Iain, “I agree”, the earth is flat. Imbecile!

  20. Ray Dixon says:

    Well, I’ll do a GD on that one, Richard, and just say:

    “Beautiful – I agree”.

  21. Iain Hall says:

    Richard
    I suspect that you get your rocks of watching Muslim snuff movies where they behead unbelievers with large phallic knives along with vids containing exhortations to Jihad.
    Are you an convert to Islam BTW?

  22. Iain Hall says:

    Ray

    You’ve actually twisted the analogy, Iain. You and GD like to watch these anti-muslim videos but you both reckon watching AFL is a waste of time. I like to watch AFL and I reckon watching videos of some nobody preaching anti-islamic rhetoric is a waste of time. So the right analogy is as follows:

    Like a lot of life long atheists I am fascinated by religion in all of its forms. I see your passion for AFL as your religion, and I have never considered that to be a waste of time, for you, In fact I sometimes envy you for the passion you have for the four stick faith. That said I don’t see very many aspects of your particular faith that are socially pernicious and its clear that there are many virtues in terms of the game being quite skilful and athletic and even the way that its hierarchy wants to bring about positive social change can be admired. But my interest in other religions is clearly far more academic and philosophical than your passion for AFL so I make no apology for being interested in the views of those who want to explore the sociology of religious belief, the philosophical nature of different dogmas and how they manifest themselves in the melting pot of modern global society.
    If it were followers of other faiths at the centre of so much social disharmony at a global level then they would be the inspiration of more posts by me but I am at a loss to find any other religious mumbo jumbo that is more socially corrosive, antithetical my core beliefs about personal liberty and autonomy than Islam, so naturally I am going to write about and reference others who are as concerned about the spread of that warlike and intolerant faith. Feel free to ignore such posts Ray, there certainly enough other topics to address here.

    .

  23. Ray Dixon says:

    Iain, you’re taking the AFL analogy too far now. The point is that even though you don’t watch & follow the footy, you have every right to be dismissive of it. And likewise I have every right to be dismissive of those self-promoting videos from fruitcakes with too much time (and too much ego) on their hands. You can put them up of course – it’s your blog – but I’ll keep criticising them as not adding anything to the debate except extreme prejudice.

  24. GD says:

    GD couldn’t help chiming in with his one-word applause

    Ray, once again you reveal yourself to be a ‘head in the sand’, ‘skim reading’ rusted-on leftard. The rest of my comment was:

    “What are you afraid of?

    Finding out that Islam is taking a hold over European society?

    Finding out that Australia is now in danger of the same fate?

    You could read Greg Sheridan’s latest articles in the OZ.

    I have obtained a copy of a written account by a former senior Immigration Department official. It is very depressing. The official writes: “In the case of boatpeople, most are flying to Indonesia or Malaysia and there has been a growing trend to effectively prebook their voyage…These are people who would largely be ineligible for normal migration but by claiming to be in fear of persecution they are usually allowed to stay in Australia, even though many will later visit their homeland once they have an Australian passport.

    He also quotes the Immigration official:

    I can confidently say that we are approving large numbers of people who are fabricating claims, and indeed the current refugee determination system works in favour of those who are most adept at spinning a yarn.

    Sheridan continues to explain how, as a result of Kevin Rudd dismantling a robust and stable border security policy, we now have 43,660 ‘refugees’ claiming Centrelink payments. These same ‘refugees’ are in line to claim ‘family reunion’ which will almost double that number. Add to that the fact that, after five years in Australia, over 90% of Afghan and Pakistani ‘refugees’ are still in receipt of Centrelink benefits.

    While the Immigration Department has admitted that it is unable to properly screen this recent influx of ‘supposed’ refugees, Labor has dangerously decided to release these ‘unscreened’ people into the community rather than open more detention centres. As most are young men, unskilled and brought up in the Islamic tradition, it’s unfair to expect Australia to welcome them with open arms and an automatic Centrelink pension.

    Unfortunately, that is exactly what this Labor government is doing.

    Gillard and Rudd have opened the doors to anyone from the Middle East. However they haven’t worked out how to accommodate, educate or even placate the largely unskilled young male influx that is now pouring into Australia.

    Labor has set a cultural time bomb for the Liberals and the rest of Australia.

    Thanks Labor”

    But apparently you couldn’t read that far or were afraid to, preferring instead to denigrate me for agreeing with the owner of the blog.

  25. Ray Dixon says:

    I was referring to your one-word comment in support of Iain’s wrong analogy. You deserved derision for that, GD.

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