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A Letter From Joe

Knowing the influence the Sandpit has on popular opinion, Joe likes to keep me in the loop regarding the latest Liberal Party news.

He sent me this email last night.

Hi GD,

Tonight Wayne Swan will deliver his sixth Budget.

In this Budget, Wayne Swan needs to do what he hasn’t done before – and that’s to be honest with the Australian people about the true state of the Budget. Australia’s quarter of a trillion dollar debt and four record deficits are testimony to a Treasurer who continues to hide from the truth about Australia’s worsening financial position. When you are dealing with the nation’s finances, anything less than honesty is totally unacceptable.

These are the tests that the Coalition will use to judge tonight’s Budget:

  • Is the Budget based on honest and credible assumptions – or will it continue the dishonest paper shuffles and the ‘cook-the-books’ culture of recent years?
  • Does it demonstrate a speedy path back to surplus in 2013-14 by cutting waste – or will Labor continue on with its profligate spending?
  • Does it bring debt under control – or will Labor again increase the debt ceiling above its current $300 billion?
  • Does it rule out new tax grabs such as further new taxes on superannuation?
  • Does it detail how Labor will pay for its big spending initiatives like Gonski and the NDIS?

The time has come for Wayne Swan to stop making promises he cannot keep and to start telling the truth about the real state of the nation’s finances.

Regards,
Joe Hockey Shadow Treasurer

Thanks for that Joe. I’m sure all the Sandpit readers will be in complete agreement, well those of sound mind anyway.

And btw, thanks for the link to the latest Liberal publication, ‘The Little Book of Big Labor Waste’.

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Update for leftards too lazy to read a pdf:

These are but two examples of a litany of over sixty equally flagrant abuses of taxpayer funds in ‘The Little Book of Big Labor Waste’.

Of course leftards will continue to stick their fingers in their ears and shout ‘la la la’, while refusing to see anything other than their own failed socialist view and their dreams of one day, somewhere in the distant future, being given a chance to once more wreak havoc on Australian society and its economy.

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24 Comments

  1. deknarf says:

    And you think that Mr Eleventy will be any different? Don’t think so!! Already seeing the having a policy without substance mantra of ’till we see the state of the budget’ when any question is asked of NO Coalition policy.
    It’s all about trust and I trust the NO Coalition less than I do Labor!

  2. Ray Dixon says:

    A copy and paste of a politician’s press release with no real comment, analysis or opinion attached does not exactly require a lot of thought or imagination.

    Blogging just reached a new low. GD, you have let the Sandpit down.

  3. Richard Ryan says:

    GD wants a surplus so we can fight another American war. Now how many billions has the Iraqi war cost the taxpayer? And still no Terrorist attack on Australian soil—–thanks to Howards surplus, giggle-giggle

  4. Iain Hall says:

    I disagree with your judgement of the post Ray GD has used the same technique that I have previously employed , namely the pretence of intimacy with the political players to get a really good point across, namely that we can only expect lies and misdirection from Labor’s last budget when it is delivered this evening. You really should read the PDF that he links to at the foot of the post it will horrify even a Labor supporter like your self as it enunciates the litany of waste created by Gillard and Co.

  5. Iain Hall says:

    Richard No one cares about your obsession with the Iraq war and your wish to see the Jihadist outrage on our soil

  6. Ray Dixon says:

    It’s just that I think GD can do a lot better than that. I don’t recall you doing a copy & paste of a pollie’s press release with no real accompanying comment or opinion attached, Iain.

  7. Ray Dixon says:

    your wish to see the Jihadist outrage on our soil

    I think Richard is just pointing out that, despite GD’s scaremongering about muslim immigration, there is no real terrorist threat to this country. Not of any substance or likelihood. That might bring wails of protest from the usual sources but the reality is we are more likely to be hurt by our own people than by muslim immigrants planning a Jihad.

    Getting back to the topic (if you can call it one), I wonder what sort of budget Fat Boy Slim Hockey would be bringing down today if he were Treasurer. A fat tax perhaps? Good to see he’s staying away from Hungry Jacks & Maccas lately, although maybe he just had his stomach stapled?

  8. Iain Hall says:

    Ray its not just bombs that we have to worry about when it comes to the Islamic ideology.

    I agree that Joe Hockey has clearly been making the effort to trim down and to shape up physically and I also think that he has really improved his game in preparation to becoming treasurer which is a very good thing.
    Oh and have you read that PDF yet?

  9. Ray Dixon says:

    its not just bombs that we have to worry about when it comes to the Islamic ideology

    You actually “worry” about it, do you Iain? You know what, I dont like “Islamic ideology” either, but I dont let it upset me. It’s not a threat to me. Or you. Unless you think they’re gonna come and cut your hands off. Got a gun on the ready mate?

    As for Hockey, don’t make me laugh. He barely has the cred of a used car salesman. And no, I’m not into reading Liberal Party propaganda about our so-called perilous debt. You know what debt stands for don’t you?:

    Don’t
    Ever
    Believe
    Tony

  10. GD says:

    Get up on the wrong side of the bed today did you Ray? Siding with Richard Ryan? That surely is a new low.

  11. Iain Hall says:

    I do as it happens Ray because I am a student of history and I know that ignoring the example of the social problems that Islam causes elsewhere and believing that “it could never happen here” would be a terrible mistake.

    As for Joe Hockey well he is far more credible than your man Wayne and the PDF is not about debt Ray its about the projects schemes and just flat out bad spending decisions made by your pals in the Labor party and it goes a very long way to explaining just what Labor’s budgets have all ended up being so bad. make the effort and you will al least know what you are arguing about.

  12. Ray Dixon says:

    Oh Iain, we’ve done the European comparisons to death before. To reiterate (briefly):

    You are wrong to compare Australia to crazy, war-torn, divided, ancient, tribal, full-of-zealots, over-crowded Europe. And “social problems”? Seriously – you believe we will have “social problems” with muslims? Seriously? Mate, stop worrying – you are not in overcrowded and miserable England now. You emigrated for a reason remember? For a better life. So does everyone else. Relax – there is nothing to worry about. (And nothing you can cite to give ground to your fears anyway!)

    I don’t see how you can say Hockey is “far more credible” than Swan. What exactly gives Fat Joe credibility, Iain? Go on, explain. This guy has an achievement record of what? Of nothing. Swan at least was the Treasurer who got us through the GFC. And he’s overseeing the strongest economy in the western world. We ain’t broke and we ain’t seriously in debt. You just don’t like his politics, that’s all you can point to.

    And I know what I’m arguing about without reading the PDF you keep rattling on about. If you reckon it’s so good then how about you list its major points and we’ll discuss them? You referenced it, not me. Your baby, your job, not mine.

  13. Ray Dixon says:

    Get up on the wrong side of the bed today … ?

    Oh okay GD I made a mistake in even commenting on your cut & paste post. I shouldn’t have bothered to grace it with any original thought – like you didn’t bother, not even now.

  14. Iain Hall says:

    Ray

    You are wrong to compare Australia to crazy, war-torn, divided, ancient, tribal, full-of-zealots, over-crowded Europe. And “social problems”? Seriously – you believe we will have “social problems” with muslims? Seriously? Mate, stop worrying – you are not in overcrowded and miserable England now. You emigrated for a reason remember? For a better life. So does everyone else. Relax – there is nothing to worry about. (And nothing you can cite to give ground to your fears anyway!)

    When I see women wearing the Burqa at my local shops its a worry and reminds me that the slippery slope is closer than you think. We already have problems with Muslim groups trying to segregate genders at public university events, Halal meet being served in our public institutions even when the number of Muslims using them is infinitesimally small, Now you can;t get a drink on Qantas frights to Europe because they have gone into partnership with Emirates, You have the protests outside chocolate shops: protests like this:


    which show how hate filled the ideology is and you think taht we should not worry?

    I don’t see how you can say Hockey is “far more credible” than Swan. What exactly gives Fat Joe credibility, Iain? Go on, explain. This guy has an achievement record of what? Of nothing. Swan at least was the Treasurer who got us through the GFC. And he’s overseeing the strongest economy in the western world. We ain’t broke and we ain’t seriously in debt. You just don’t like his politics, that’s all you can point to.

    Swan has not got any of his projections predictions or assumptions right in the last six years of creating Labor budgets and as for “getting us through the GFC” Please, everyone knows that we got through that well primarily because we went into it with a far better financial position than most of our contemporaries. In fact I think that Had Labor not panicked and been more prudent in their stimulus we would have got both a better bang for our bucks and a much lower debt burden as well. Hockey may not have Swan’s “experience” but he is not carrying his reputation for getting it really wrong either

    And I know what I’m arguing about without reading the PDF you keep rattling on about. If you reckon it’s so good then how about you list its major points and we’ll discuss them? You referenced it, not me. Your baby, your job, not mine.

    The PDF lists all of the foolish spending from Labor over the last six years, from golden coffee machines fro the department of climate change, to expensive leases for buildings that are not being used , to first class travel for public servants, the litany of Labor wast is almost unending. I suppose that I will have to understand that you just can’t face the truth about the Labor party, well all that I can say is that sometime you just have to face your fears before you can see the truth.

  15. Ray Dixon says:

    So this is what you’re “worried” about, Iain?:

    1. women wearing the Burqa at my local shops its a worry and reminds me that the slippery slope is closer than you think

    How many have you seen? I’ve never seen one, not here in Bright (a small town like where you live). Not in the bigger regional cities of Wangaratta and Albury-Wodonga either. And not in Melbourne on the frequent trips I take down there. I’m yet to see my first burqa-wearer in Australia, Iain, but if you say they exist I accept that. But what is the problem? The slippery slope? Into what? What will burqa-wearing lead to exactly, Iain? I agree it looks “frightening” and “anti-social” but so do bikies. So do Collingwood supporters. So do the hillbillies up in the mountains around here – mate, you should see what they wear! And they carry guns, Iain. And they don’t wash. And … I’m not worried about them, why are you? Look, Greek & Italian women used to get around in black clothing with a head scarf (a black one) when I grew up in the 50s, 60s & 70s but they don’t anymore. I’d suggest burqa-wearing will phase out too as muslims assimilate. Seems like it mostly has, actually.

    2. problems with Muslim groups trying to segregate genders at public university events

    You mean like we segregate men & women in sporting events? Is there something wrong with that? Look, there are still Italian families here who migrated in the 60s who won’t allow their kids to date or marry non-Italians. Or who put up a big fuss about it. Happened to my daughter actually – they wouldn’t even chip in for the wedding but insisted on bringing every distant relative they had … at my expense. They outnumbered our side 3 to 1. Such is the way with different cultures. That’s how it goes – so what?. Big deal.

    3. Halal meet being served in our public institutions

    And this is a problem? Don’t eat it then.

    4. you can;t get a drink on Qantas frights to Europe because they have gone into partnership with Emirates

    Then don’t fly Qantas – I wouldn’t. Besides, I thought you didn’t fly or drink. Anyway, Qantas will be out of business soon – self inflicted. And I’ll definitely be checking with the travel agent when we go to France that the airline serves booze. I prefer Virgin anyway.

    5. protests outside chocolate shops: protests like this

    Yes that protest was idiotic as were the big, bad nasty signs. All talk and no action there, Iain. All bluster & bullshit. Seen worse at a no-carbon tax rally, quite frankly.

    So that’s it, huh? Try not to lose any sleep over it, Iain. I won’t be.

    As for the Labor “waste”, that just proves they’re like any other government that proceeds or succeeds them. Governments (all governments at all levels) waste money. It’s the whole principle of the way they operate. It’s their reason to be. The Libs are (and will be) no better.

  16. Iain Hall says:

    Ray

    So this is what you’re “worried” about, Iain?:

    When I say worried please don’t think that I mean I sit in a corner in abject terror.

    1. women wearing the Burqa at my local shops its a worry and reminds me that the slippery slope is closer than you think

    How many have you seen? I’ve never seen one, not here in Bright (a small town like where you live). Not in the bigger regional cities of Wangaratta and Albury-Wodonga either. And not in Melbourne on the frequent trips I take down there. I’m yet to see my first burqa-wearer in Australia, Iain, but if you say they exist I accept that. But what is the problem? The slippery slope? Into what? What will burqa-wearing lead to exactly, Iain? I agree it looks “frightening” and “anti-social” but so do bikies. So do Collingwood supporters. So do the hillbillies up in the mountains around here – mate, you should see what they wear! And they carry guns, Iain. And they don’t wash. And … I’m not worried about them, why are you? Look, Greek & Italian women used to get around in black clothing with a head scarf (a black one) when I grew up in the 50s, 60s & 70s but they don’t anymore. I’d suggest burqa-wearing will phase out too as muslims assimilate. Seems like it mostly has, actually.

    I’ve seen it several times in Westfield Strathpine and more often in West End but your expectation of assimilation is far to optimistic because that has not been the case in other parts of the Islamic Diaspora and under the notions of Multiculturalism and the influence of modern communications technology there is far less incentives to assimilate than there were for those Italians and Greeks you are so fond of citing.

    2. problems with Muslim groups trying to segregate genders at public university events

    You mean like we segregate men & women in sporting events? Is there something wrong with that? Look, there are still Italian families here who migrated in the 60s who won’t allow their kids to date or marry non-Italians. Or who put up a big fuss about it. Happened to my daughter actually – they wouldn’t even chip in for the wedding but insisted on bringing every distant relative they had … at my expense. They outnumbered our side 3 to 1. Such is the way with different cultures. That’s how it goes – so what?. Big deal.

    Its a bigger deal than you think Ray because we as a society have made big strides towards gender equity and to pander to Muslim misogyny will set equality back by 1300 years if we ignore it.I choose not to ignore it because it won’t go away.

    3. Halal meet being served in our public institutions

    And this is a problem? Don’t eat it then.

    We both know its more of an issue than that its about the creeping hegemony of Islamic values and ideas, How long do you think it will be before you can’t buy a bacon Sarnie?

    4. you can;t get a drink on Qantas frights to Europe because they have gone into partnership with Emirates

    Then don’t fly Qantas – I wouldn’t. Besides, I thought you didn’t fly or drink. Anyway, Qantas will be out of business soon – self inflicted. And I’ll definitely be checking with the travel agent when we go to France that the airline serves booze. I prefer Virgin anyway.

    Yes you are right that I don’t fly Ray but that does not mean that I can’t see worrying trends, any way while you are in France check out the effect taht Islamic migration ios having to that society and I expect that you will come back far less sanguine than you are now.

    5. protests outside chocolate shops: protests like this

    Yes that protest was idiotic as were the big, bad nasty signs. All talk and no action there, Iain. All bluster & bullshit. Seen worse at a no-carbon tax rally, quite frankly

    The more often such protests happen the more likely it is that they will turn nasty and the more they get us to concede the more that they will want.

    So that’s it, huh? Try not to lose any sleep over it, Iain. I won’t be.

    I don’t ever sleep that well Ray but its not from worrying about Islam.

    As for the Labor “waste”, that just proves they’re like any other government that proceeds or succeeds them. Governments (all governments at all levels) waste money. It’s the whole principle of the way they operate. It’s their reason to be. The Libs are (and will be) no better.

    Come of it Ray if there is one thing that Labor are good at its wasting money and doing so in a big way when they have hold of the nation’s credit card, they are FAR worse than the coalition especially during the sojourn of Rudd and Gillard in the Lodge.

  17. Ray Dixon says:

    Iain, so you’ve seen women wearing burqas? Full head cover with just slits for the eyes? And ….. ???? Yes, what’s the problem? You’ve failed to make any point – we cannot stop people wearing what they choose and why should we? It’s a non-issue, Iain, and I think you’ll find it’ll fade out. Do you seriously believe the next generations will continue it?

    Oh Iain, misogyny is rife in many immigrant cultures. Indians for example. And yes, in some European immigrant cultures too (non muslim ones). Oh, and in Aussie born parts of the country. So a small sector is behind the times, so what? They’ll ctach up and it won’t take 1300 years. More like 13. I have two muslim nieces, Iain – they are highly qualified and doing very well in the corporate world despite their upbringing. That’s because they’re adults and were born here and made their own choices, as other muslim kids will do. This “misogyny” you refer to is first arrival stuff and it won’t last.

    I don’t agree that halal meat will become the accepted norm, Iain. Does your butcher sell it? Do you not have a choice? This is plain petty, Iain.

    And it is entirely Qantas’ choice to not serve alcohol. They’re not doing themselves any favours with that policy among Aussies. It seems to me that Qantas has deserted Australia as its base by choice. It’s a badly run company full stop – a national joke. I used to only ever fly Qantas overseas but I wouldn’t now. But don’t worry, I seriously doubt Richard Branson will stop serving booze on Virgin flights. As for France, I’ve already said what happens there is of no bearing in Australia. They eat snails & frogs, Iain. They smoke in cafes (and allow pets inside!). Whoa – look out, it’ll happen here.

    Their protests are all piss & vinegar, Iain. There have been far worse and more violent protests than that. There will always be dickheads holding protests – like F*ck walks! – so maybe we just stop all protests full stop? People are allowed to protest, Iain. There is no harm done by the incident you cite and it just reflects badly on the minority carrying those signs. Storm in a teacup.

    So if you’re not “worried” about it why are you making such a big deal about it? Life is too short to be concerned about these non-issues.

    Just one further comment on the Labor waste thing, Iain. So if the Libs can “stop the waste” we’ll all get a big tax cut? Yeah right. Sure. Ha Ha. In your dreams.

  18. GD says:

    Ray ranted:

    So if the Libs can “stop the waste” we’ll all get a big tax cut?

    No Ray, we’ll stop borrowing money from overseas to run the nation, get it?

    As for the Labor “waste”, that just proves they’re like any other government that proceeds or succeeds them. Governments waste money. It’s their reason to be. The Libs are (and will be) no better.

    So how come the Libs always leave a surplus and Labor leaves the coffers bare with the debt collectors at the door? 🙂

    Give it up Ray. Clearly nothing offends you:

      Islamic hoards arriving on our doorstep to access welfare then sending their sons back to Syria to fight for al-Qa’ida?

      The Gillard faux government replete with inexperienced union employed graduate student/ministers making economic and social decisions that effect the entire nation?

      An open borders policy that costs Australians $100,000 per so-called asylum seeker?

      The Gillard faux government falling for the biggest con in history, the global warming scam, and wasting billion of dollars on ‘changing the climate’?

      And the world’s worst treasurer delivering his sixth massive deficit budget with nothing to show for it?

    No, none of this offends you. It’s all hunky dory as far as you’re concerned.

    Yet you get your knickers in a knot whenever Sophie Mirabella is mentioned and close your ears whenever Tony Abbott or the Liberal Party is referred to.

    No, Swan didn’t avert the GFC for Australia. The Costello/Howard surplus, along with the mining boom did that. Labor’s tax splurge did nothing more than buy plasma screen TVs for people who couldn’t afford them before. The bulk of that profit went to China.

    You would have saved a lot of time yesterday by simply reading the pdf in my post rather than arguing the same tired old points that you have laboured over for the past four years.

    It’s a fun read and one not paid for by the taxpayer unlike Labor’s brainwashing spin and propaganda campaigns.

  19. Iain Hall says:

    Ray

    Iain, so you’ve seen women wearing burqas? Full head cover with just slits for the eyes? And ….. ???? Yes, what’s the problem? You’ve failed to make any point – we cannot stop people wearing what they choose and why should we? It’s a non-issue, Iain, and I think you’ll find it’ll fade out. Do you seriously believe the next generations will continue it?

    Yes the all in black only a slit to see through full on Burqa and the woman was walking a couple of paces behind her owner. The problem is of course that I expect such things to become ever more common as the number of Muslims in this country increases and the experience elsewhere is that once the Muslim population reaches a certain level there is more lobbying to change the greater society to fit in with Islam notions.

    Oh Iain, misogyny is rife in many immigrant cultures. Indians for example. And yes, in some European immigrant cultures too (non muslim ones). Oh, and in Aussie born parts of the country. So a small sector is behind the times, so what? They’ll ctach up and it won’t take 1300 years. More like 13. I have two muslim nieces, Iain – they are highly qualified and doing very well in the corporate world despite their upbringing. That’s because they’re adults and were born here and made their own choices, as other Muslim kids will do. This “misogyny” you refer to is first arrival stuff and it won’t last.

    Ah well that may just explain why you are so keen to downplay the threats posed by Islam. You have a horse in the race. Fine I’m glad that your nieces are able to do well despite their religion but you are kidding yourself if you think that is more generally true.

    I don’t agree that halal meat will become the accepted norm, Iain. Does your butcher sell it? Do you not have a choice? This is plain petty, Iain.

    Its all about not wanting to see cruelty entrenched in the process of animal slaughter as far as I’m concerned Ray and the fact that,as I have documented earlier at the Sandpit, elements of the left seem so keen to not offend Muslims that they try make us all eat halal “just in case” that I object too

    And it is entirely Qantas’ choice to not serve alcohol. They’re not doing themselves any favours with that policy among Aussies. It seems to me that Qantas has deserted Australia as its base by choice. It’s a badly run company full stop – a national joke. I used to only ever fly Qantas overseas but I wouldn’t now. But don’t worry, I seriously doubt Richard Branson will stop serving booze on Virgin flights. As for France, I’ve already said what happens there is of no bearing in Australia. They eat snails & frogs, Iain. They smoke in cafes (and allow pets inside!). Whoa – look out, it’ll happen here.

    Well I still think that you will get some unpleasant surprises about Islam when you visit France Ray and what you see there is a preview of what we can expect.

    Their protests are all piss & vinegar, Iain. There have been far worse and more violent protests than that. There will always be dickheads holding protests – like F*ck walks! – so maybe we just stop all protests full stop? People are allowed to protest, Iain. There is no harm done by the incident you cite and it just reflects badly on the minority carrying those signs. Storm in a teacup.

    Protests won’t stop and over time they will become more vocal and before too long we will see the same violence that is sadly evident in Europe. That is the lesson of history Ray and if we don’t pay heed to that lesson we will be failing future Australians, its as simple as that.

    So if you’re not “worried” about it why are you making such a big deal about it? Life is too short to be concerned about these non-issues.

    Ray you should know by now that I just love an argument in fact I am famous for arguing about just about any topic under teh sun (don’t get me started on Climate 😉 ) The effects of Islam on society is just one topic amongst many that I like to write about, If I was really worried, in fear of may life worried, I would write about it All of the time instead of just occasionally.

    Just one further comment on the Labor waste thing, Iain. So if the Libs can “stop the waste” we’ll all get a big tax cut? Yeah right. Sure. Ha Ha. In your dreams.

    the point is not tax cuts but seeking balanced budgets where expenditure pretty well matches revenue that is not too much to expect of government surely?

  20. Ray Dixon says:

    Congratulations GD on finally adding your own words to this post you wrote copied & pasted. But don’t just put up links to Liberal Party literature and expect me to read them – if the Lib PDF is such a “fun read” as you suggest, you should have included some of it in your original post (Copy & paste of course). Despite all your carry on about our debt, the bottom line is a coalition government will not make us any better off.

    Iain, so fundamentally you are just moaning about muslims because you can? Obviously there are no adverse impacts of muslim immigration in Australia you can point to so you just have a bitch about the way they dress and the way they kill livestock. Sounds like it.

  21. Richard Ryan says:

    Gee! Don’t the the girls love Tony Abbott. Imagine if he becomes PM. and they chanting in near hysteria, piss on me Tony, piss on me.

  22. GD says:

    I don’t mind the occasional ‘cut’n’paste’ post. A succinct point made with a graphic or a quote from other media is often quite useful at generating comment. It obviously was in this case.

    However, for those of you who are pdf challenged, I have updated the post to include a few ‘big print’ examples. Enjoy 🙂

  23. Ray Dixon says:

    Wow, Labor spent $70m advertising the carbon tax. Is that the best you can do, GD? How much did the Libs spend advertising GST when it came in? All governments splurge on promoting new policies.

  24. GD says:

    We voted for the GST, we didn’t vote for the carbon tax. Get it?

    I notice you didn’t comment on the union example. And those are only two of over sixty examples of Labor pissing taxpayers’ money away on pipe dreams, indulgences and sheer waste.

    As far as all governments doing that, well Howard and Labor are as far away as Earth and Uranus, your anus being Labor of course.

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