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If we don’t understand now we may not be allowed to know the truth later.

Leon alerted me to this channel on You tube and I have found this piece about the stages of Jihad most illuminating as it explains very well the way tah expedience is the motivator of Muslim behaviour and how we, as non believers should understand the agenda of those who follow the pernicious ideology of Islam and why we should look derisively upon those who make excuses for and dissemble on behalf of the faith.

Its a most sobering presentation presented in a most calm and sober manner, sadly far too many people just don’t want to admit the true nature of the threat posed by totalitarianism of Islam. My only hope here is that the truth will be recognised sooner rather than later , because if we don’t understand now we may not be allowed to know the truth later.

Cheers Comrades.

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13 Comments

  1. Ray Dixon says:

    We already understand the dangers that radical Islamists pose to others, Iain. We’ve all lived through the last decade or so and we don’t need some noob on a 24 minute video to tell us that “Jihadists are shit” – we know this. And we are dealing with it (and have largely dealt with it). I don’t see any benefit in tarring the whole religion (and thereby tarring all muslims) with the same Jihadist brush.

  2. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    I think that you miss the point of the vid (assuming you watched it) which is all about the way that followers of the faith will change their public image and attitude to Jihad depending upon the relative social position of the Islamic subculture. So when we have a relatively small percentage of Muslims in our population then you are correct to suggest that they will not be any sort of problem socially however as they gain in numbers or reach a certain critical mass in a particular locality then they change tack and start to be more of a problem to the wider society. The vid makes this case with surprising clarity and we ignore it at our peril.

  3. Ray Dixon says:

    Why would I waste 24 minutes of my life when I know what’s in it – more bullshit scaremongering? The fact is you summed it up in a couple of sentences, Iain, and I already realised that was the premise of the idiot’s video. It says it all. Sure, we’re going to be taken over by Jihadists if we let too many muslims into Australia. Here’s some news, Iain …. that is never going to happen.

  4. Iain Hall says:

    The thing is Ray its neither “bullshit or scaremongering” its simply a realistic exploration of the way that Islam works and has worked since this ideology was created.

  5. Ray Dixon says:

    It’s a dying ideology, Iain. The jihadist bit, I mean. Not much future in suicide bombing, you know. Honestly, to suggest jihadists could take over a thriving, democratic, westernized country like Australia is straight-out scaremongering. I don’t care how many muslims migrate here, they will never be of such high numbers that they dominate and never represent a serious threat to our way of life. The reality is that in countries like Australia all immigrants eventually assimilate and the few bad seeds that get through and start plotting nonsense get caught. And jailed – usually well before they’ve done anything more than talk about it. They’re not the brightest pennies in the box, you know. Relax, you’re safe.

  6. GD says:

    It’s a dying ideology, Iain. The jihadist bit, I mean.

    You got that bit right, Ray! That’s the point of Jihad, making sure everyone who doesn’t accept Islam dies. ‘Dying ideology’, too good 🙂

    to suggest jihadists could take over a thriving, democratic, westernized country like Australia is straight-out scaremongering.

    Perhaps you could explain that to the survivors of the Boston Marathon attack, you know, the bloke with one leg blown off and the other reduced to a shard of bone.

    I don’t care how many muslims migrate here, they will never be of such high numbers that they dominate and never represent a serious threat to our way of life.

    You are forgetting that muslims in Australia have a far greater birthrate than Australians. It won’t happen in our time, but in the future we are looking at the exact situation that is already happening in Europe.

    The ABS details the birthrate:

     In New South Wales, where the largest Muslim population lives, Muslim-Australians constituted 2.5% of the total state population (ABS Census, 2007).
     Within New South Wales, over 50% of the Muslim population lived almost entirely within a radius of fifty kilometres of Sydney, making Sydney the most concentrated Muslim population in Australia (ABS Census, 2002, 2007).
    This steady increase has been mainly attributed to immigration; however, high birth rates have also contributed to the rapid increase in the Muslim population. The table below prepared by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade in 2004 using 2001 Census data shows that the Muslim birth rate in Australia is a significant factor towards Muslim population growth. Also, it shows that Muslims in Australia are increasing at an unprecedented rate from within. If this trend in the Muslim-Australian population growth continues, it is possible that the second-and third-generation Muslim populace could gradually expand over the years signalling an important factor in Australia’s social, economic, and political reality.
    Table 2: Australian Muslims – country/region of origin. Source: Census 2006.

    Did you get that?

    I’ll run it by you again. The salient points are:

    high birth rates have also contributed to the rapid increase in the Muslim population
    it shows that Muslims in Australia are increasing at an unprecedented rate from within
    If this trend in the Muslim-Australian population growth continues, it is possible that the second-and third-generation Muslim populace could gradually expand over the years signalling an important factor in Australia’s social, economic, and political reality

    Ray said:

    The reality is that in countries like Australia all immigrants eventually assimilate and the few bad seeds that get through

    Well, yes they did, Ray, but this is a new dawn, a new day, and since 9/11, emigration and asylum seeking from Islamic countries has taken on a whole new meaning. We are no longer living in the 1950s and welcoming fellow Christian immigrants from Europe. Whereas followers of Buddhism, Judaism or Hinduism have successfully assimilated, many Muslims, by way of their strict adherence to a doctrine of exclusivity and intolerance, have shown that they are either incapable or unwilling to become part of the Australian community, preferring instead to hide behind their shrouds of archaic tradition.

    Ray I know that since 9/11 it’s been hard to keep track of Islamic terrorist attacks, there being so many, the Bali bombings, London trains bombings, Boston bombings, you know the usual stuff our mischievous Islamic cousins get up to. However here’s a helpful up-to-the-minute guide to keep you informed.

  7. Ray Dixon says:

    So you point to an event on the other side of the world to support your ‘no muslims in Australia’ stance, GD? And in Europe. We’ve been down that track. You haven’t made a case for your radical position. Not even Tony Abbott and your coalition idols support your point of view.

    As for the birth rate thing you point to – give me a break. Gee, GD, do you cower under your bed at night scared shitless that some newborn muslim kid next door is going to cut your head off?

  8. GD says:

    And that’s all you’ve got, Ray? You support a dysfunctional government that has opened our borders to all and sundry from Islamic countries, countries that have caused their own social, civil unrest and political decline due to their archaic Islamic ideology?

    As I’ve already stated, I don’t propose a ‘no muslims in Australia’ stance. I’ve asked you to show where I said that, but somehow you can’t be bothered, instead you continue to label me a ‘racist, muslim hater and aboriginal hater’, all without proof.

    As for the birth rate thing you point to – give me a break. Gee, GD, do you cower under your bed at night scared shitless that some newborn muslim kid next door is going to cut your head off?

    You’re losing the plot here Ray. If you’d read my previous comments you would see that obviously the increased birthrate and its incumbent ramifications will be felt in the near future by Gen Y and the generations that follow them.

    I also hope you have the courage to click on Iain’s posted video comment.

    This video has merit.

    Or are you once again burying your head in the sand of the Border Mail sports section?

  9. Ray Dixon says:

    Yes GD, I support our current immigration policies. So does the opposition. So do all of us who are not redneck racists.

  10. GD says:

    Yes GD, I support our current immigration policies. So does the opposition.

    Show me where the opposition supports the current open and out of control border situation. They may agree with the immigration quota but they certainly don’t agree with the open border policy that Labor has adopted. That’s the one that allows all and sundry who arrive here by any means to be awarded welfare, housing and full medical whether or not they hold a visa, and whether or not they have been through security and health checks.

    Yes, Labor, that’s the way to control our borders. Why not open up the country to the world?

    Ludicrous, yes, however that’s the way Labor is heading.

    Vote 1 Labor, and there’ll be even more uninvited guests who won’t want to go home. Why would they? Labor pays a base rate of welfare and allows them to roam the country seeking illegal work to top up their meagre allowance.

    You can’t blame the so-called refugees really, can you?

    You can blame Labor though. They are selling out our birthright, they are ignoring both economic and social factors in favour of their idealistic utopian dreams.

    Unfortunately, these idealistic utopian dreams are more likely to become nightmares for the general population.

    Vote 1 Labor at your peril.

  11. GD says:

    And your reply, on other threads, is to take me to task for not being online the same time as you are. Pathetic.

  12. Ray Dixon says:

    your reply, on other threads, is to take me to task for not being online the same time as you are.

    GD, as I said on the other thread, you sneak in at 4 am or thereabouts to make your responses and then you disappear. It says a lot about your courage.

    It also says you’re not worth debating.

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