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After all of the smoke will we now see the fire?

Well how about the news today that slippery Pete is to be charged over allegations of dishonesty?

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Not wanting to take away his presumption of, Ah hem, innocence however its hard for me not to secretly enjoy the prospect of a whole cohort of lefties who have been insisting that slipper not previously facing charges means that the whole affair has been a Coalition fit up…
Hark! is that the light of a fire to go with all that smoke we have been seeing for ages?

Cheers Comrades

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21 Comments

  1. deknarf says:

    1. Alleged crime in 2010!. Wasn’t Slipper a member of the LNP then?
    2. Apparently used Com cars outside prescribed Canberra boundaries.
    3. Amount at issue $900.
    Lets see a complete review of all Com car use/misuse for all parliamentarians. Probably raise a few VERY interesting skeletonised cupboards!

  2. GD says:

    And there’s another rusted on Labor supporter sticking up for Slimey Slipper. Labor took him on and promoted him. Leave the Libs out of it.

    By the way, deknarf, have you got that list of ‘reforms’ that Labor has brought in? You know, the ones you were trumpeting about? I guess not.

    Just another rusted on Labor supporter. As Graham Richardson said,

    whatever it takes

  3. Iain Hall says:

    Deknarf
    As others have suggested Slipper was promoted to high office , not by the coalition but at the behest of Gillard herself, so it is Gillard who has to wear responsibility for the man’s actions both after his appointment but also for the time before. Because it was her responsibility to do the appropriate due diligence, especially as Slipper has form for this sort of dodgy practice.

  4. Ray Dixon says:

    it was (Gillard’s) responsibility to do the appropriate due diligence, especially as Slipper has form for this sort of dodgy practice.

    Come off it, Iain, how could she know about this? From the article:

    (the charges) relate to three Comcar trips in 2010, in which Mr Slipper – who was then a Coalition MP – travelled beyond the allowed Canberra region. The trips are understood (to) amount to about $900.

    Do you seriously suggest Gillard should have had a full forensic audit done on Slipper’s Comcar accounts for the 20 years he was a coalition member before she appointed him?

    And what “form” do you claim he has? Go on, you made the claim, back it up. What dirt did the Liberals have on Slipper that they neither acted on or disclosed while he was their man?

  5. Iain Hall says:

    Slipper has been required to reimburse monies paid for this sort of thing before Ray, that is well known and it would not have been hard for Gillard to check out his more recent travel expense claims before appointing him to the speakership.

  6. Ray Dixon says:

    “Well known” or hearsay, Iain? If it’s documented that Slipper has been caught out before then (a) I agree that Gillard should have been more thorough, and (b) please supply the link confirming this. Otherwise it’s hearsay and you are conveniently making a call after the fact. As I recall you said nothing about Slipper’s “form” at the time of his appointment, so this knowledge you have now mysteriously acquired appears to have been a recent discovery.

  7. Tel says:

    Can the cops get a prosecution without going past Nicola Roxon first?

  8. Iain Hall says:

    Yes Tel the AFP do not act at the instruction of the Attorney general

  9. Iain Hall says:

    Information obtained from the Department of Finance shows that in October last year Mr Slipper was required to repay $3311.21 he had overspent from his electorate staff travel period during the six-month period to June 30, last year.

    In October, 2007, the department recovered from Mr Slipper $1708 in excessive car transport for the period from January 1, 2006, to September 7 that year.

    In July of that year he was also required to repay $1280.06 in family travel fares he had taken outside the entitlements.

    Seven months earlier, in December, 2006, the Member for Fisher also repaid $3178.15 in excessive car transport claims for the period from November, 2004, to December, 2005.

    Indiscretions dating back to 2002 included $5079.40 worth of family travel taken outside the entitlements which he repaid in April, 2003, relating to journeys taken from July, 2002, to March, 2003.
    The Sunshine Coast Daily

    Go here for of a report of him being required to repay excessive expense claims. that is form in my book Ray

  10. Ray Dixon says:

    You should have put that up earlier, Iain. I agree that it’s enough to send alarm bells and that Gillard erred in her appointment of a dishonest Coalition MP to the position of Speaker. Makes neither side look good.

  11. Iain Hall says:

    Sure its not good that any party should tolerate a man like Slipper being one of their number but the difference was that the Coalition was ready to give him the arse and Gillard should have known what he was like before raising him to high office. the two judgements are each rather poor but Gillard’s was a greater mistake than the Coalition’s.

  12. damage says:

    Gillard has a long history of sub standard judgement. Wilson, Emmerson, Slipper. The list of people she’s made poor judgement about is long and quite sad really.
    Then there’s the poitics….from Medicare Gold to ….well all of them really.

  13. Ray Dixon says:

    So all this confirms is that Gillard is a lousy PM? Good, we know that. That’s why even a majority of Labor voters would prefer Rudd.

  14. damage says:

    I think most Labor supporters would prefer Abbott as well.

  15. deknarf says:

    Hmm? Wasn’t Reith’s rip off around $50,000 — and he was promoted too!
    PS: Where was the LNP’s due diligence in accepting him as a parliamentarian in the first place and then continuing to support him year after year?

  16. Brian says:

    Iain, proves nothing except that Slipper, or his staff, were crap at calculating expenses and entitlements. If he was paying back overspends a month or two after the fact, rather than covering them up, then I hardly see what the problem is. There has to be intent to defraud and conceal. And in the context of an MP’s salary and entitlements, the amounts are fairly piffling.

    Sure its not good that any party should tolerate a man like Slipper being one of their number but the difference was that the Coalition was ready to give him the arse

    Where’s the evidence of that Iain? Please provide a link. And while you’re at it, tell me why the coalition failed to act on Slipper themselves if he had this “form” you are claiming?

  17. Tel says:

    There has to be intent to defraud and conceal.

    The court document alleges that he filled in more cabcharge dockets than actual trips, and that the trip details were incorrect.

    You do wonder a bit why someone would do that over such a petty thing. Sense of entitlement I guess, maybe in his own mind he is a big star?

  18. Brian says:

    There’s also the distinct possibility that he doesn’t know what day it is, or whether he’s coming or going.

  19. Ray Dixon says:

    How was he ever pre-selected for the seat? Over and over by …. guess who? Has he ever had any potential? Has he ever done anything other than bludge off the public purse? Makes a perfect Liberal in my opinion.

  20. GD says:

    Oh come on Ray, remove those myopic Labor spectacles, Slipper was a loser when in the Liberal Party, but since joining the Labor Pardee he has put his snout well into the trough. And Jooliar has rewarded him with the speakers chair. That by far outweighs the Libs’ half-hearted removal of him from the seat of Fisher.

    Under the Libs he was on the way out; he wasn’t propping up the government. Under Labor he was positioned to prop up a minority government. Upon resigning as speaker he was again rewarded with an appointment to a foreign affairs committee, replacing Robert McClelland.

    Labor rewards its loyal subjects, no matter how sleazy, greasy or grubby they are. Remember, the catch phrase:

    ‘Whatever it takes’

    Unfortunately ‘Whatever it takes’ won’t cut it this time, and Labor and its supporters will enjoy a long time in the wilderness contemplating their lack of empathy with the common man, their failure to see debt as anything other than something for the Libs to fix up next time and their stuff-ups as ‘reforms’.

    Laborites will also have time to contemplate the idiocy of Attorney-General Roxon’s attempt to legislate against ‘offending anyone’. It seems Labor don’t know when to let go. Their policies have failed, their green schemes are in ruins, the deficit is in the billions, but no, Labor insists on pushing through idiocies such as Roxon’s proposed legislation.

    Out of touch, out of line and now out of time. Vale Labor.

  21. Ray Dixon says:

    GD, you’ve basically conceded that the Liberals don’t mind carrying dead weight. But I knew this – I live in the Indii electorate, remember?

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