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Union corruption, Gillard and the Labor party

The Labor Party is a creature of the Union movement so how can we trust a Labor government to make  the reforms to union governance that both the AWU and HSU scandals clearly demand?

Gillard has only one honourable course of action here and that is to fall on her sword But my guess is that she will try to bluff and bluster her way through the last sitting of parliament for the year today in the hope that the issue will be lost amongst Yuletide celebrations. I can’t help but wonder just how joyful Brother Number One is at the woman who knifed him now  enjoying such close proximity to her own petard?

Cheers Comrades


  1. Peter Dippl says:

    I did not have sexual relations with that slush fund.

    Cheers comrade mate.

  2. deknarf says:

    YAWWWWNNNNNNNNN! Talk about mountains from pimples! At least Phoney Tony is back into the mudslinging. Ya just can’t keep a good mudslinger down, can ya!
    And Pyne too! Must be the pre-chrissy delirium. Wonder where Julie Bishop got to after her faux pas?
    What we need is a new centralist political party — and we need it NOW!
    Have also downloaded Phoney’s book ‘A Strong Australia’. Must admit it could have a better title, like: ‘Australia In The NO!’ for example
    Will give it a read over Chrissy based on that strategic truism — know your enemy (or was that enema?)
    Youse have a nice day now 😉

  3. Iain Hall says:

    Times are tough for the left when even the Chaser boys are agin Gillard!

    Deknarf do you have a link to the Abbott piece you talk about?

  4. deknarf says:

    Ooooh don’t know whether I should give such radical to a righty radical Iain! 😉
    But in the spirit of a very Labor Christmas, try this:


    Try not to let it warp your mind now :-O

  5. Iain Hall says:

    Thanks for that 🙂

  6. deknarf says:

    I note that the download is free — at least it won’t go into the ignominity of being remaindered!

  7. alan says:

    it had to be free or nobody would ever get to read it, not that they will anyway.

  8. Iain Hall says:

    Actually Alan its people like you who should be reading it lest your criticisms be dismissed as entirely uninformed. as usual.

  9. alan says:

    and you need to practise in the comprehension stakes……..as usual!

  10. GD says:

    Probably too many big words in it for you alan. Best stick with the racing guide and Joolia’s ‘mooving forward’ waffling.

  11. alan says:

    Only an idiot would think I was referring to anything other than Iain’s reply, which makes for very difficult reading.
    Undoubtedly he will clean it up next time he looks, and realises.

    Oh, and the upper case was just for you. Howzat!

    As for racing guides, it shows just how much you know.
    Racing guides are for people like you, that don’t have any clues themselves.
    We probably made your yearly wage times 10 since the last time I was here.
    On second thoughts I doubt you would be smart enough to earn much. Make that by 20.

    As for Julia, what has that do with with me?
    Just because I think you’re an idiot does not make me a Labor person.

  12. GD says:

    I appreciate the upper case effort you put into that comment, and glad for you that the betting business is doing well.

    Tax returns doing as well? Skiting about large dubious earnings can be fraught with danger.

  13. Richard Ryan says:

    Lay off GD, it’s not his fault he is a bastard, his mother never got married. Join the club.

  14. alan says:

    If you knew what the tax office was doing presently regards gambling, then you would know that we would all have our house in order, or we would be in it deep.
    Try Googling David Walsh the owner of MONA in Hobart, and you may get a slight inkling.
    Sorry to disappoint you GD.

    Now can you go back to your usual nonsense and forget the gambling?
    It has no relevance here, it only popped up because you were trying to be clever.
    It’s about freebies that nobody will likely want, or read.
    I am pondering what the book could be about, not that I will bother looking.
    It can’t be about policy because he has none.
    It can’t be about truth and decency, because he knows nothing of either.
    He can’t have written it himself, because he is too busy saying “no” to have had the time.
    Does it actually have any pages I wonder?

  15. Iain Hall says:


    It’s about freebies that nobody will likely want, or read.
    I am pondering what the book could be about, not that I will bother looking.
    It can’t be about policy because he has none.
    It can’t be about truth and decency, because he knows nothing of either.
    He can’t have written it himself, because he is too busy saying “no” to have had the time.
    Does it actually have any pages I wonder?

    Thus you demonstrate that your opinions about Australian politics are entirely informed by your own base prejudices and wilful ignorance.

  16. alan says:

    My opinion of politics in Australia is simple.
    None of them are worthy of Government.
    Labor, Liberal, Greens…NONE of them.
    Politics in Australia, is no longer about issues, and the greater good.
    It’s all about ‘me’. ‘Me’ being those morons on either side, that have completely lost sight of what they are there for.
    They’re too busy screaming and yelling abuse at each other, telling bullshit endlessly, and behaving like primary school kids(with apologies to the school kids).
    A POX on ALL of THEM

  17. Iain Hall says:

    Surely you jest Alan?

    If you really believed that they are ALL unworthy then why are you commenting on a blog largely devoted to politics in the first place?
    further you almost always take a position that is contrary to my own which is, at the very least. giving tacit support to Labor and the Greens so don’t try to argue that you have an equal disdain for all sides of politics because no one here believes you.

  18. alan says:

    in your own words it is NOT a blog about politics, so make up your mind.

    you know the reason i came here in the first place, and it was nothing to do with anybody, just the guy whose blog it is.

    to say ‘all’ is taking licence i suppose, but if you can find a decent honest one, whose primary interest is improving the lot of ALL australians, then please let me know, and one that is not sullied by your political beliefs.
    let me spell it out for you with regards to your last ultra long (lower case!!!) sentence.
    i despise them all basically, but there is no way i could ever vote liberal in their present format, so you are correct in a way, i would choose labor over liberal presently.
    that does not alter the fact that i have no faith in any of the parties currently.
    and think none of them are worthy.
    it just comes down to a matter of degree, in that i think one is less shithouse than another, but they ARE both shithouse..

  19. Iain Hall says:

    So Alan I take that as an admission of your previous hyperbole then, because when it comes down to who we vote for I see no shame in deciding to choose the lesser of two evils, the real shame is those like yourself, who decide not to vote and make fallacious claims that none of the aspirants are worthy of office some one has to do the job and if we don’t have a say then we have no right to complain about the result.

  20. alan says:

    where did i say that i don’t vote?
    i said that none of them are worthy of government, i did not say i don’t vote.
    i would vote for the devil himself, if would help keep them in opposition.
    they are no longer anything remotely close to being the liberal party that once was.
    the same is true of labor, but that is the lessor of two evils in my opinion.

    i never thought much of amanda vanstone, but the other day i just happened to notice her and pyne on some cooking show or something together.
    it was as plain as the nose on bill lawry’s face, that she holds him in contempt, and rightly so, although she was trying to hide that fact, but not succeeding.

  21. Iain Hall says:

    I seem to recall you saying that you did not vote at some time in the past on another thread but I could be wrong I suppose as there are thousands of comments on this blog.

  22. Iain Hall says:

    Submitted on 2012/04/29 at 8:40 am

    I suppose you could call it a waste where my vote is concerned at the present time.

    No way could I vote green.
    If it was a Paul Keating type government then I would vote Labor.
    The present Labor people have more than lost their way, they’re a bunch of idiots.
    There is no way I could vote Liberal, because they are too extreme in my opinion.
    Since they were forced further and further right, because of PK and RJH, they are no longer a Liberal party.
    Not to mention I have my own little quirks.
    For instance….If Abbott or that idiot Andrews or several other of those fruit loopy guys that tend to park themselves over there, were born in Muslim countries, I am sure they would be the same extremists that they despise.
    No difference really.
    So what choice do we have?
    Basically I don’t follow blindly, I think about it…..and really it’s depressing thinking of what we are presently stuck over the whole political spectrum.
    You on the other hand would vote Liberal no matter who was calling the shots.
    Turnbull and Abbott for instance, would I am sure be vastly different.

    Anyway, I think it would have been better if Abbott had won the last election the same way Labor did.
    Then, we would have been rid of him next election and good riddance.
    Now we will be stuck with him for quite a few years by the looks of it.
    As Xavier Herbert wrote……..”Poor Fellow My Country”.!

    Looks like you saying that you don’t vote to me Alan

  23. alan says:

    i think i’ll get you to insert what i mean before i post anything.
    if that says i don’t vote, then abbott is an atheist.
    it says i despise them all and i do, but it does not say i don’t vote, even if it may infer i don’t want to vote for any of them, which i don’t.

    if you trawled through posts just to confirm what you thought, then you must have a boring life.
    especially as i am only a no account blow in!!

    and even if i actually said that i wouldn’t vote in that post, how much water has flowed under the bridge since then?
    is there a written rule that says an opinion must stay a constant?

    it’s simply you, that, for some reason i have no idea about, wants to catch me out.
    so if you did me catch ever, then what?
    i am a liar?
    confirmed crap artist?
    full of it?
    and then?
    see it’s irrelevant.
    it’s unimportant.
    alan is a nothing, but we already knew that didn’t we?

  24. Iain Hall says:

    Alan what you fail to realise is that as site owner I get a “search comments” facility that makes it very easy to separate out your 160 odd missives here and to then find the comment I cited took all of about five minutes.

  25. GD says:

    Iain, isn’t it funny that most of your leftard commenters won’t acknowledge that they are indeed Labor voters? They ramble on, pretend to take the high ground, the all-seeing overview, when in fact they are nothing more than rusted on Labor supporters who are too ashamed to admit to following an ideology that hasn’t worked, that doesn’t work and has glaringly failed over the past five years.

    Take Brian, alan and deknarf for example. At least blog author Ray Dixon is out and proud about his rusted on status.

    On the other hand, your Greens supporters, ie Craigy and Damian, admit to their folly. Well Damian didn’t actually admit, but that pic you posted of him says it all. He could be Adam Bandt’s understudy gauging by his kissing a blow-up doll.

  26. alan says:

    Well there you go.
    Had to have a chuckle at that.
    The GD cake has far too much fruit in it.
    Not sure even a good shrink could help you GD.

  27. Ray Dixon says:

    At least blog author Ray Dixon is out and proud about his rusted on status

    You make it sound like a gay thing, GD, but I support the Labor side/philosophy purely & simply because I reckon you cannot trust a Liberal as far as you can throw one. I’ll give you a brief run down of why:

    My distrust of the Liberals goes back to the Menzies/Holt/Gorton/McMahon era of the late 60s-early 70s – I’m talking Vietnam & conscription here – when they proved to everyone how they don’t give a shit about the general public and especially those who either don’t vote for them or who are too young to vote. And they were so beholden to England – do you remember when decimal currency was introduced and Menzies announced we’d be changing from a “Pound” to a “Royal”? I kid you not, we were going to have “Royals” instead of dollars until the public kicked up so much.

    The end of that era in late 1972 was when Australia finally started to become a decent nation. Unfortunately it was short-lived and we got the Libs manipulating their way back into their born-to-rule position via the do-nothing Malcolm Fraser. Well, he could do one thing – conspire with the GG to bring down a government. He didn’t have a clue how to run the economy or the country. And Howard was his idiot Treasurer.

    Then we took off again in 1983 when Hawke & Keating took control and put this nation’s economy, social position and foreign policy finally on the right track.

    Howard benefitted from that from 1996 onwards but in the end couldn’t help emulating his hero Menzies by sending our youth off to be killed in another false war. Iraq was little Howard’s copy-cat version of Vietnam – all the way with the USA, sort of thing. He was a genuine suckhole and a lazy PM who benefitted from Keating’s reforms and added a GST to give himself a false sense of economic achievement. But the reality is he built nothing. Then he turned his attention to screwing the workers.

    Rudd at least had plans and vision. I know you think he sent us into too much debt but the reality is his actions over the GFC saved Australia and placed us in the strongest position in the western world. I don’t give a shit about the debt and anyone who does, doesn’t understand economics.

    Gillard’s a different kettle of fish and I don’t think she’s any kind of leader. She’s about self preservation. But your idiot Abbott is a disaster waiting to happen.

    I agree with the comment made here by someone else that it would have been better if Wilkie, Oakeshott & Windsor had backed Abbott – just to prove that the Libs are not fit to govern. Not by a long shot. If they get back in it’ll be by default but they have not changed are still much the same as the bunch of arrogant fools and arseholes that we had back in the 60s.

    That’s not a fully definitive argument and I know you’ll attempt to pick it to pieces and rattle on about spending & debt, etc, GD. But the bottom line is this:


  28. Iain Hall says:

    I think that GD’s point is more about voting Labor has become a “love that dare not speak its name “ and I think that he has got a point> I totally disagree with your pro-Labor position but I do respect the passionate way that you keep the faith and so to does GD IMHO.

    Finally Turnbull is:

  29. Ray Dixon says:

    Bay City Rollers, Iain? Seriously, you dug their version up and not John Paul Young’s original? Bay City Rollers – were you a fan, mate?

    As for GD’s “point”, I think he’s got that wrong. There will be plenty of people voting ALP down here in Victoria next year and not afraid to say so. And plenty in your State too, given how our respective State Governments are going. Newman & Baillieu are actually Abbott’s worst enemies. Abbott will never be PM, Iain. It ain’t going to happen …. God is not that cruel!

  30. Iain Hall says:

    I did not know that the BCR did a version of the song and I chose it for the novelty rather than any fandom fro the band.

  31. Ray Dixon says:

    There’s a better version somewhere called “Yesterday’s Underpants”. It goes:

    Take a whiff of me,
    I’m wearing yesterday’s undies.
    Yesterday’s undies,
    And they smelllllllll

    It’s the Greens’ theme song.

  32. alan says:

    “He could be Adam Bandt’s understudy gauging by his kissing a blow-up doll.”

    You wouldn’t waste the opportunity by just kissing one would you GD, you would go the whole hog,…. I mean, where else could you get a bit?

  33. Richard Ryan says:

    Slush fund Tony Abbott’s ——and Pauline Hanson—–say no more. Maybe Ray Dixon can fill us in on the details

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