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Jokes that backfire

Strewth its getting so that no one can make or take a joke these days with all of the dour seriousness that has been advocated by  our friends in the ALP you would have thought that they could at least practice what they preach but no they have been caught out being offensive about Tony Abbott’s female head of staff at a party function. The joke is though that having tried to claim the high moral ground over the Jones affair and Gillard’s posturing in the Parliament about sexism and misogyny they have demonstrated precisely those vices at this function.

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I am also reminded of the “swings and roundabouts” effect of playing these issues with the public as my quote suggests Labor may be winning with the feministas on this issue but far more ordinary blokes are being turned off their shenanigans and at the end of the day it is the votes in the box that counts and Labor have once again shown that their rank opportunism is fooling no one but themselves.
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31 Comments

  1. Brian says:

    It’s a non-story and that article is as biased as hell. They weren’t “forced by the furore” to condemn this joke (whatever it was), they phoned up the union the next morning and did it. Before the story had hit the press. Which is more than the Libs did after the Alan Jones line. In fact they lied through their teeth that it didn’t happen, then that about the Chatham House rules declaration.

    All that aside, your point is right Iain. When you start playing these petty games then you need to keep a squeaky clean ledger yourself. Not sure the ALP is without its own sexists and problem children, e.g. Craig Thomson.

  2. Iain Hall says:

    You are right about the original reaction to the Jones thing Brian However I think that your claim of “bias” is rather over the top. All media sources are braised (check out Fairfax with an open mind) but I thought that this piece was actually rather even handed even though it was critical of Labor.

  3. deknarf says:

    Iain. Just love your ‘braised’ for ‘biased’. The slip of the fingers is right on the money! The current crop of Federal politicians need to be thoroughly braised over a slow fire till their crackling is all crispy! Better not be rude/crude or I’ll be accused of something!
    Urgently needed: Real people to fill the parliamentary benches on both sides!

  4. Iain Hall says:

    That is the joy of spell check for you deknarf ! 😆

    That said I have a strange vision of Fava beans and Chianti after reading your comment!

  5. Ray Dixon says:

    So does anyone know what was actually said about Peta & Tony? What was the joke? I can’t find it anywhere.

    (My guess is it was something about Peta having Abbott’s head job)

  6. deknarf says:

    Not really keen on liver I’m afraid ;-O

  7. Iain Hall says:

    Well as most pollies are rather old and tough and their liver’s often rather pickled by too much grog I would tend to agree but surely if they were cooked nice and slow in a curry sauce they might just be palatable…

  8. deknarf says:

    Bombay or Katsu?

  9. Iain Hall says:

    Hmm
    Maybe a vidaloo with extra chilli so that we will remember them for the pains in the arse (that so many are) the next morning with the after burner effect 😀

  10. GD says:

    Yeah Ray, what was the joke? That’s more important.

    Of course Labor came straight out to condemn this joke. It was at a union function attended by senior Labor ministers. The Alan Jones non-event was at a private student dinner, reported by an undercover muckraking journalist.

    After all Labor’s moral high grounding, they would have been sh*t-scared upon hearing the comedian’s joke.

    Ha! Couldn’t have been more timely.

  11. deknarf says:

    :-O There enough of a pain already Iain without the need for further suffering in a rectal manner of speaking!

  12. Ray Dixon says:

    Both events were “private”, GD, and both were attended by politicians from the respective parties. The difference is that all the ALP pollies were quick to condemn the Peta/Abbott joke (whatever the hell it was) and one (Emerson) even walked out immediately, whereas the Liberal pollies in attendance at the Young Liberals event tried to either deny that the Jones comment existed or that it was inappropriate. None of them condemned it in any meaningful manner. In fact your member for ‘Airheads’ Susan Ley actually told the Border Mail that she “just heard Alan Jones being Alan Jones”. Yeah, right, Susan … it’s just what Alan does, eh?

  13. Ray Dixon says:

    Anyway, my guess is the joke was:

    “I dunno why people say Tony Abbott hates women. He loves women – he even gave Peta the head job.”

  14. Craig says:

    Eh Labor started the sexist/misogynist smear in a hope to gain more women votes, as the fact is more men vote for the LNP in comparison to women voting for the ALP, so it’s the only easy smear option without policy to achieve the goal of evening up the sexes voting pattern. In Labor’s lack lustre non-reality of a world view, this tactic will back fire, and with most probability end up with more women voting for the LNP. Labor’s illogical view of victim cards, equality(Feminista supremacy), is a failed logic. In the long run egalitarianism and feminism in a western multicultural setting is the loser both economically and socially when versed against heritability.

  15. Brian says:

    However I think that your claim of “bias” is rather over the top. All media sources are braised (check out Fairfax with an open mind) but I thought that this piece was actually rather even handed

    Actually on reading the full article, it is more even handed than I thought. It’s just that you only posted the parts hacking into Labor.

    I am with deknarf though, I am bored and disappointed with wankers on both side of the political divide and these unimportant “issues”.

  16. GD says:

    Ray.

    I wasn’t aware that there were any Liberal pollies at the function. I thought it was only students and the undercover snake.

    Craig Emerson walked out? I thought he’d be next on stage with his karaoake act.

    Frankly, your joke and Jones’ comment said at private functions should just have been that, private.

  17. Ray Dixon says:

    It’s not possible to keep that sort of stuff “private”, GD. This is 2012, not 1962. Although try telling Abbott that.

  18. Brian says:

    Ray is right. But even if we were to agree these functions were “private”, would that have made it OK to make appalling personal references?

  19. damage says:

    Classy Ray.

  20. Ray Dixon says:

    I can do better than that …..

  21. Tel says:

    Napoleon Bonaparte supposedly said, “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”

    Tony Abbott would be best to listen to Napoleon, and avoid saying anything, ever… just in case he interrupts the ALP who are invariably in the process of screwing something up.

    By the way, strangely your headline is also suitable for the recent Nobel Peace Prize.

  22. damage says:

    What even more misogynist and offensive? Surely not Ray.

  23. GD says:

    The difference is that all the ALP pollies were quick to condemn the Peta/Abbott joke (whatever the hell it was) and one (Emerson) even walked out immediately

    No Ray,

    Trade Minister Craig Emerson said he had left the function shortly after the joke was told.

    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/offensive-abbott-joke-falls-flat-20121011-27exz.html

    Yep, he was offended, I suppose, after he had time to say his goodbyes to all and sundry.

    On the other hand, the ‘world’s worst treasurer’ Wayne Swan sat there lapping up the ribald humour. As did Tanya Plibersek and Bill Shorten, who both follow ‘Alan Billison’, the comedian in question on twitter.

    http://horatioblog.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/cfmeu_smear_of_abbot_tactic-not_surprise/

    The point is, Ray, Labor are attempting to use sexism, misogyny and other imagined slurs to emasculate the opposition, when Labor are even more guilty of this behaviour.

    It’s the lowest and last resort of a desperate government.

  24. Ray Dixon says:

    Oh, it wasn’t immediately after the joke that Emerson walked out, it was “shortly after”. Thanks for the correction, Mr Pedantic GD, but the point is he left.

    As for Swan, he was a guest speaker and he had to stay. But he advised the CFMEU of his disapproval before it became news. No Liberal pollie did likewise with the Alan Jones event.

    You’re just obfuscating the issue but, for what it’s worth, everyone seems to have missed the point. The argument over misogyny/sexism was started by Abbott’s motion to dismiss Slipper over “sexist” comments. The point of Gillard’s retort – you know, the ‘bad ass mother f*cker’ speech that’s gone global – was merely to point out how Abbott was a hypocrite. But since then the ALP haven’t handled this well and have made too much of the sexism slant by keeping up the attack from all ministers. It’s overkill.

  25. Matt says:

    Yeah the whole thing really is getting too silly for words. And while there may be a net gain in support from women because of this so-called feminist angle, there are a lot of women who are disgusted by it as well.

  26. GD says:

    Ray, I can’t believe you’re saying that Abbott’s motion to get rid of Slipper due to his sleazy behaviour, his misappropriation of government funds, his disgusting text comments and sexual-harrassment of his ‘boyfriend’ was the reason for Gillard’s fishwife attack on Abbott.

    So it’s all Abbott’s fault. Unbelievable.

    Didn’t Slipper deserve it? He certainly thought so, hanging up the towel and crawling home to his life-time pension.

    The Labor hand-bag hit squad have been running this sexist assault on Abbott for months. This wasn’t new.

    Ray, you’re too intelligent to follow this line of Labor propaganda. While you, for some reason, have a personal dislike of Tony Abbott, surely you see that this government is on the nose, has no redeeming features and should, for the good of Australia, be removed as soon as possible?

  27. Ray Dixon says:

    Abbott’s motion was simply to reduce Labor’s numbers. Gillard’s response was to give him a spanking for it. I can’t believe that you don’t know how politics works.

  28. damage says:

    While we’re discussing the actions of Gillard and Emmerson – Is it hating women if you steal their husbands?

  29. Richard Ryan says:

    IMAGINE if the PM was arrested for indecency in a London public toilet, Alan Jones was.

  30. Richard Ryan says:

    AND this old wanker, points the finger at anyone who does not suit his political requirements. The “shame ” of it all.

  31. damage says:

    Richard you old homophobe.

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