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Oh Yeah, nothing is or should be sacred!

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  1. Damian says:

    No hat-tip for Bolta?

    Anyway, I remain intrigued by your ongoing lurch toward Muslim-hating. How many Muslim people have you actually met and spoken with about their faith? Is this what you base your opinions on? If not, is it your study of Islamic texts and histories? Or have you educated yourself by reading blogs and opinion pieces?

  2. Iain Hall says:

    Damian
    I don’t hate any one but by the same token l don’t have any love for the sort of totalitarian ideology that is so evident in Islam. l have no problem admitting that individual Muslims can and often are absolutely charming however that does nothing at all to redeem the Islamic faith as it is practised today . To answer your question about the origin of my opinions about Islam well I have been interested in questions of religious belief for the better part of fifty years during that time I have read a great deal about all of the great faiths.
    Now can you explain what makes you so keen to denounce any one who is critical of Islam ?

    (A note to my biggest fan This comment was posted from my PS3 and I knew it contained errors , now corrected but the browser is too clunky to easily fix them last night. now in the dawns early light I have fixed then, Have a nice day now Peter Wellard :cool:)

  3. GD says:

    Damian’s question:

    How many Muslim people have you actually met and spoken with about their faith? Is this what you base your opinions on?

    This question could easily be turned back onto apologetic leftists.

    How many Muslims do they know, have met, and discussed religion and politics?

    Most likely none.

    I have, however, lived alongside Muslims in western Sydney. I have my opinions of them based on my day to day interaction with them in my local shopping district. Nothing builds community more than cloaking women in black shrouds.

    It adds to the bonhomie of the street. We have businesses here successfully run by Indians, Egyptians and all variations of Europeans. A couple of Greeks are the richest. They’ve been here the longest.

    Somehow I don’t see these shrouded Islamic women, their cowardly misogynistic men and their perverted culture adding to this bonhomie.

    Neither do I have to have studied ‘Islamic texts and histories’ to have a valid opinion about the recent influx of Islamic immigration and refugee settlement in Australia. Although, aptly enough, I do have an acquaintance who works in academe in Melbourne who has weirdly converted to Islam. We’ve had many heated arguments, and I’ve received a number of books explaining why. Suffice to say, they don’t.

    Aside from my personal observation of the Islamic incursion into Australian society, there is the common sense reaction that even the leftist media responds to. You can’t ignore 9/11, you can’t ignore the 7/7 London bombings, or the Bali bombings. Across three continents, in less than a decade, Islamist terrorists have targeted Western civilisation.

    Is it any wonder that Australians are reluctant to accept further Muslim immigration?

    Here in our own country this is happening. Is this the future for Australia, or can we put a stop to it and curtail rabid Islamic immigration and refugee resettlement?

  4. deknarf says:

    I think it was Voltaire who said: ‘I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it!’

  5. Iain Hall says:

    deknarf
    When it comes to saying anything uncomplimentary about Islam the left are very much at odds with Voltaire and for the life of me I can’t work out why when so much of the ideology of Islam is contrary to every thing that the dear minions of the left claim to believe in.

  6. Craigy says:

    Reality check for Iain.

    I have yet to see a rational person on this blog (or anywhere else really) defend the violence supposedly committed in the name of Islam.

    People have defended Australian Muslims and other Muslims who live here, because they are generally good people trying to live the same as the rest of us and they don’t deserve to be smeared as they and their leaders seem happy to condemn the violence the same as everyone else.

    The Meme that you and your friends keep repeating won’t become a fact any time soon….But that won’t stop you from repeating it ad nauseam for your own amusement.

    What I have read here is people defending religious organisations (other than Islam) and their leaders for their continuing support of child abusers. That is what is really being said at your blog Iain….

    You are happy to foster hate against an entire group of people from one religion that has a minority of violent members and yet ignore the violence of another religion and the on-going cover-ups because of a family bias……

    Australia is the country of the fair go, some who come to live here just don’t get it.

  7. Brian says:

    How many Muslims do they know, have met, and discussed religion and politics? Most likely none. I have, however, lived alongside Muslims in western Sydney. I have my opinions of them based on my day to day interaction with them in my local shopping district.

    Translation: “You lefties don’t know any Muslims. I, however, shop with them”.
    Pathetic. Grade Five logic at best.

    Craigy, I’ve never seen or heard anyone on this blog (or others) speak in defence of Islam. That’s something that Iain, “GD” and “kman” have just conjured up, because we don’t join in their hate-fest on the brown people. I hate the idea of Islam. I don’t hate the people who subscribe to it, and I live in hope that one day people brainwashed by silly religions will see the light and step into it.

    Meanwhile, another Catholic cover up exposed, this one involving the police:

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/top-cop-taken-off-abuse-inquiry-20121001-26vlt.html

  8. deknarf says:

    It’s not only the Left Iain. The Ranters of the Right are right in amongst the affray as well!

  9. GD says:

    I live in hope that one day people brainwashed by silly religions will see the light and step into it.

    ‘Brian’ that is most admirable, but reveals your naivety or your wilful blindness to the Islamic scourge that has attacked the Western world these past ten years.

    I, too, live in hope that misguided Muslims will abandon their religion, which is really an ideology disguised as a religion, and join the 21st Century worldwide community. As it is, the leaders of this medieval culture continue to preach their Sharia based ideology in nations across the world. Europe is worse off for welcoming people who follow the edicts of the Islamic viewpoint. Australia has welcomed lunatics such as Sheik Hilaly and more recently Taji Mustafa, the hate-preacher and Hizb ut Tahrir leader.

    Why is our government supporting Islamist extremists?

    Why are leftists so benign in their opinions of a clearly racist, homophobic, misogynist and murderous ideology?

    Why did it take so long for Immigration Minister Chris Bowen to grant Gert Wilders a visa, yet Taji Mustafa, the hate-preacher and Hizb ut Tahrir leader was granted one immediately?

    Something is very wrong when our leftist government supports despotic, repressive and undemocratic regimes, while denying entry to a minister of another democratic government.

  10. GD says:

    Brian smirked:

    Translation: “You lefties don’t know any Muslims. I, however, shop with them”.
    Pathetic. Grade Five logic at best.

    What I said still stands. You don’t live in a multicultural community, let alone an Islamic one. My suggestion to you is to butt out of this discussion until you actually have some on-going contact with other cultures. Clearly you don’t. When is the last time you spoke with a Sudanese person, or a Muslim or an Indian? A Sri Lankan?

    I could take it further and ask when was the last time you conversed with an Aboriginal?

    I can answer in the affirmative in all five instances, what’s your score?

  11. Brian says:

    You don’t live in a multicultural community, let alone an Islamic one.

    Given that I’ve never mentioned it here, how the hell do you suppose to know where I live?

    My suggestion to you is to butt out of this discussion until you actually have some on-going contact with other cultures. Clearly you don’t. When is the last time you spoke with a Sudanese person, or a Muslim or an Indian? A Sri Lankan? I could take it further and ask when was the last time you conversed with an Aboriginal?

    This is why you are the biggest clown posting on this blog, “GD”. You have no idea where I live, what I do or which people I have contact with, yet you presume to know, then order me to “butt out” because you live near Muslims and (according to you) I do not. If I told you where I live and where I have been in my life, it would embarrass you.

    The reason I don’t come on here blurting out personal stuff like that is because it is utterly irrelevant to the debate. Living next door to Muslims doesn’t make you an expert on Islamic race relations, any more than living next door to a synagogue makes you a rabbi. If you live in a suburb popular with Muslims and you don’t like their hajibs, call to prayer or kebab shops, then stiff excreta. It is a free country. They are free to live where they like and you are free to move. Knowing you, however, I’m sure you think being white gives you some kind of land rights on western Sydney (some bloody irony there).

    Nice of you to finish with a Today Tonight video too. Shows the level of your mentality.

  12. alan says:

    gee brian, don’t confuse gd with anything sensible, it’s beyond his comprehension.
    to understand how rational and perceptive he is….google christopher booker and then have a chuckle; as gd thinks he is an authority on global warming, and not just another fruit cake like ……..

  13. Iain Hall says:

    Alan
    I am still waiting for you to tell me who you think it is that I have villified and I would love to know why you think that they are incapable of defending themselves.

  14. alan says:

    well if you can’t figure that, then you are not too smart, or you have done it to other people too.

  15. Iain Hall says:

    Stop being so cryptic Alan, just name names or I’ll call bullshit on the accusation.

  16. Ray Dixon says:

    You’ve vilified “Sax”, “TIO”, “Travis”, “Sylvia” and a whole range of anonymous snipers, Iain.

    Come on, when will you stop vilifying and ridiculing idiotic cowardly people who are unidentified?

    Enough is enough!

  17. GD says:

    Well said, Ray! And who is this creepy stalker ‘alan’? The one who admitted to me that he drove by Iain’s place as an afterthought, just interested to see where Iain lives. Iain already explained that it would have taken a two hour detour to just ‘drive by’.

    Creepy is only the beginning.

  18. GD says:

    ‘Brian’, I don’t care where you live. You were the one who asked ‘have I ever met a Muslim?’ I was calling you at you own game.

    This is what I was asking:

    As it is, the leaders of this medieval culture continue to preach their Sharia based ideology in nations across the world. Europe is worse off for welcoming people who follow the edicts of the Islamic viewpoint. Australia has welcomed lunatics such as Sheik Hilaly and more recently Taji Mustafa, the hate-preacher and Hizb ut Tahrir leader. Why is our government supporting Islamist extremists? Why are leftists so benign in their opinions of a clearly racist, homophobic, misogynist and murderous ideology? Why did it take so long for Immigration Minister Chris Bowen to grant Gert Wilders a visa, yet Taji Mustafa, the hate-preacher and Hizb ut Tahrir leader was granted one immediately?

    But of course as a bleeding heart apologist for cultures that seek to take advantage of our Western society, as in immigrant welfare, refugee ‘welcome packs’ and the even more absurd package being given to those Sri Lankans who now deem themselves too good for our refugee facilities, you’re ok with that?

    The election can’t come soon enough.

  19. Iain Hall says:

    Well I am so fucking sorry that I upset a large number of deserving anonymous (well sometimes they thought they were) malicious idiots

  20. Brian says:

    ‘Brian’, I don’t care where you live. You were the one who asked ‘have I ever met a Muslim?’ I was calling you at you own game.

    No I didn’t, you bloody liar. I would never ask that because frankly I am simply not interested in the answer. Don’t make up fairy stories about what I allegedly said because your own pointless anecdotes (“I have a Pakistani friend”, “I shop with Muslims”) have fallen flat.

    But of course as a bleeding heart apologist for cultures that seek to take advantage of our Western society, as in immigrant welfare, refugee ‘welcome packs’ and the even more absurd package being given to those Sri Lankans who now deem themselves too good for our refugee facilities, you’re ok with that?

    I’m OK with newcomers to Australia, whether immigrants or asylum seekers, being given some assistance. As for you, you’ve now extending your hatred beyond Muslims and casting it on any foreigner who comes to Australia and receives assistance. Anyone who comes here and gets any kind of government or charitable assistance is demonised. Well, anyone who isn’t white. At least we’re getting closer to the bone about your real prejudices.

    The election can’t come soon enough.

    You’re stupid enough to think that the election will change a damn thing. It won’t. The reason it won’t is because for the most part, the Liberal Party is run by moderates who won’t slash immigration or join in your hate-a-thon against immigrants and asylum seekers. The Liberal Party is run by realists, pragmatists and decent people, not xenophobic idiots like Cory Bernardi.

    My first encounter with you was to read a pathetic whinge about Andy Muirhead being handed a “get out of jail free” card by a “Labor-appointed judge”. Where is old Andy now?

  21. Brian says:

    Iain, I wouldn’t worry about anonymous people (like “GD”) posting garbage on the internet. The internet is like a big toilet wall. Some parts are worth reading but a lot of parts definitely aren’t. Sensible people can tell the difference.

  22. Iain Hall says:

    I think that you missed the sarcasm in my comment Brian, also GD is not anonymous to me where as you are.

  23. Brian says:

    So what? You should judge what people say/write, rather than getting strung out about identities.

    As for “GD”, he mightn’t me anonymous to you but he’s anonymous to me. Not that I particularly care who he is.

  24. Iain Hall says:

    Brian
    If you know anything about my time blogging you would realise that I have spent a fair bit of time arguing about the issue of online identity and I have also had a very long Conga line of anonymous suckholes attacking me relentlessly for years so while its easy for the casual blog commentator to chant the “its the content rather than the speaker that matters” my experience suggests otherwise.

  25. Brian says:

    Iain, if you’re referring to “troll wars” and “flame wars”, etc., I have always tried to stay out of and above that kind of thing. There are no winners and losers, only losers and losers.
    I stand by what I said. If you argue honestly and fairly, the trolls will generally leave you alone. I’m sorry if they’ve made you a target, as it sounds they have.

  26. paulwello says:

    Iain, Just had to laugh at this comment you made, especially coming from you.

    its the content rather than the speaker that matters” my experience suggests otherwise.

  27. alan says:

    never let the facts get in the way of a good yarn, gd.
    what i originally said and was ignored, was that i drove up to somerset dam, and on the way back made a little detour of the main road i was on at the time.
    2 hours is nonsense(although we are used to it from you) but don’t let that stop you.
    you have never been for a casual drive in the country, especially to a place you don’t get to very often?
    maybe you’re too scared to leave home in case you spot a muslim!

    from an idiotic, cowardly, anonymous, person.
    got a chuckle out of that.
    (edited to remove personal abuse)

  28. Iain Hall says:

    Alan
    Looks like I get to call bullshit on your allegations as you are unwilling to name who it is you think that I have “vilified”
    That said I know the roads around here and if you can get to my house from the Somerset dam in less than an hour, and return to Hi vale in another hour then you would be breaking all kinds of speed limits in the process.

  29. Iain Hall says:

    Why do you find my comment makes you laugh Paul?”

  30. paulwello says:

    Iain, you are suggesting that you are more important than what you actually post about, that is the funny part.

  31. Iain Hall says:

    The post is about Billy Connelly Paul and god bothering middle eastern style and I would never claim to be “more important” than either of those. So please explain precisely what part of may prose suggests other wise

  32. paulwello says:

    Iain, you were commenting about someone else’s post not on Billy Connolly’s video

    Brian
    If you know anything about my time blogging you would realise that I have spent a fair bit of time arguing about the issue of online identity and I have also had a very long Conga line of anonymous suckholes attacking me relentlessly for years so while its easy for the casual blog commentator to chant the “its the content rather than the speaker that matters” my experience suggests otherwise.

    So Iain

    Iain, you are suggesting that you are more important than what you actually post about, that is the funny part.

    So Iain, you are putting yourself, the speaker, above what you are saying.

  33. Iain Hall says:

    No Paul I am having a wide ranging conversation on a blog post Just like you are

  34. paulwello says:

    NO IAIN

  35. alan says:

    “edited to remove personal abuse” is a fabrication on your part iain.
    it was repeating ray’s words directed at me as you well know.
    and the other part was just something i found when googling a while back, and i dare say THAT is what you wanted to remove.
    honesty is a virtue no matter what else one may be, and you just went loose with the truth

  36. paulwello says:

    Iain does not like the truth

  37. alan says:

    QUOTE: Alan
    Looks like I get to call bullshit on your allegations as you are unwilling to name who it is you think that I have “vilified”
    That said I know the roads around here and if you can get to my house from the Somerset dam in less than an hour, and return to Hi vale in another hour then you would be breaking all kinds of speed limits in the process.

    well the simple truth is I never mentioned how long i was driving for, YOU DID.
    i never mentioned 2 hours or any other time.
    i was out driving, last time i looked it was legal.

  38. Iain Hall says:

    Driving may be legal Alan, but stalking someone is a crime

  39. LOVO says:

    My first trolling attempt……. is nothing sacred 😀

  40. Iain Hall says:

    Thanks for that Lovo I think its very funny! and I don’t consider it trolling at all so welcome to the Sandpit!

  41. alan says:

    you need to go and see a shrink if you think i was stalking anybody, hell i have never even seen you in my life( and have no wish to!)

    no mention that you were loose with the truth either, and you were.
    i don’t give a stuff if you moderate whatever, but at least be honest about it.

  42. Iain Hall says:

    Alan I consider any mention of sites that exist only to vilify me as personal abuse and my edit and annotation reflect that fact.
    Still waiting for you to tell me who you think I have vilified

  43. alan says:

    IAIN SPEAK TRANSLATED: “i don’t want anybody to know of that site.”, and it’s obvious why you don’t.

  44. paulwello says:

    That is one site, he has also been banned from several other sites for trying to instill his knowledge.

  45. Ray Dixon says:

    Alan, are you seriously suggesting Iain should allow the publication of (yet another) stalking website’s address here? Get off the weed mate.

  46. GD says:

    lowercase alan revealed:

    and the other part was just something i found when googling a while back

    lowercase alan, you are a creep. You’re googling Iain Hall? After driving past his house? What is your problem? What is your obsession with Iain Hall?

    I fail to understand why Iain lifted his ban on you. You are skin-crawlingly creepy. Go away, grub!

    You have nothing to offer this blog.

  47. Iain Hall says:

    GD
    I only lifted may ban on lower case Alan on the old principle of “Keep your friends close but your enemies closer” In m y experience obsessives like Alan tend to reinvent themselves if I ban or black list them so I think that it is better to keep them around as a known quantity rather than having to work out what their newly invented identity is.
    Its good to have a whipping boy around as well….

  48. alan says:

    haha, that was worth a good chuckle iain.
    i am an ‘obsessive’, another very insightful statement from you.
    ‘obsessive’ is having about 2 trillion blog sites, like some guy called iain hall.
    ‘obsessive’ is having the loudest presence in the blogosphere.
    and i’m ‘creepy’ according to gd!

    while we are on gd.
    i would not argue that i have nothing to offer this blog, but really, my nothing is infinitely more than your offerings, which are nothing but rabid rants in the main.
    i must also add, that you are 100% fruit cake gd, but creepy, you are not, just whacko.
    iain at least has some intelligence.
    i got a surprise when i was able to post, but then, really it makes sense…….if you have 2 trillion blogs, you can’t have it full of people with the same outlook, or your blog dies.
    iain is obviously smart enough to realise that, but gd on the other hand……….
    of course iain is welcome to ban me, it makes no difference to me, and matters not one iota.

  49. Iain Hall says:

    Alan

    haha, that was worth a good chuckle iain.
    i am an ‘obsessive’, another very insightful statement from you.

    Really “alan” You are obsessive enough to claim to have checked out my house, But too cowardly to offer to meet me for coffee and a real world chat.

    ‘obsessive’ is having about 2 trillion blog sites, like some guy called iain hall.

    Well I don’t hold anywhere near that number of URLs and all but a couple are dormant anyway

    ‘obsessive’ is having the loudest presence in the blogosphere.

    That is bollocks Alan, I am a regular blogger certainly but far from the loudest.

    and i’m ‘creepy’ according to gd!

    Both Ray and I think that you are creepy because you have given us the evidence to back that belief up

    while we are on gd.
    i would not argue that i have nothing to offer this blog, but really, my nothing is infinitely more than your offerings, which are nothing but rabid rants in the main.

    GD at least knows how to capitalise his sentences properly and as an author here he contributes far more than you do

    i must also add, that you are 100% fruit cake gd, but creepy, you are not, just whacko.

    I’ll back GD over you every day of the week Alan.

    iain at least has some intelligence.

    Takes a bow 😎

    i got a surprise when i was able to post, but then, really it makes sense…….if you have 2 trillion blogs, you can’t have it full of people with the same outlook, or your blog dies.

    Well I don’t have that many blogs however I do like a diversity of views on them

    iain is obviously smart enough to realise that, but gd on the other hand……….
    of course iain is welcome to ban me, it makes no difference to me, and matters not one iota.


    “Keep your friends close but your enemies closer” I

    Still waiting for you to give me the name of the person that you say I have vilified.

  50. alan says:

    “GD at least knows how to capitalise his sentences properly and as an author here he contributes far more than you do”

    i would far rather be ‘lower case alan’ than ‘basket case gd’!!

    “In my experience obsessives like Alan tend to reinvent themselves if I ban or black list them”

    that is absolute twaddle as you well know.
    so you quickly banned me when you thought i was going to post stuff that you don’t want anybody to know.
    but like a good little boy i accepted my punishment, and just went away.
    did i email you with any abuse or anything?
    did i try to reinvent myself at any stage?
    of course not, why would i, the truth is, i simply couldn’t give a stuff
    so your bullshit is just that….bullshit.
    ban me again, and see what happens……sfa, i will just be banned.
    so why don’t you grant your ‘basket case’ mate his wish, and put it to the test.

  51. Iain Hall says:


    Alan


    “In my experience obsessives like Alan tend to reinvent themselves if I ban or black list them”

    that is absolute twaddle as you well know.
    so you quickly banned me when you thought i was going to post stuff that you don’t want anybody to know.
    but like a good little boy i accepted my punishment, and just went away.

    I did not “ban you” Alan I put you into moderation and you claimed that you were “done with this blog” and much to my surprise you came back.

    did i email you with any abuse or anything?
    did i try to reinvent myself at any stage?
    of course not, why would i, the truth is, i simply couldn’t give a stuff

    You are an anonymous commentator Alan so I have no way of know if this is the only Identity that you have used to comment here, I have had one person re-invent themselves at least four times to comment here, for all I know you could be identity number five (or six, I’m not counting)

    ban me again, and see what happens……sfa, i will just be banned.
    so why don’t you grant your ‘basket case’ mate his wish, and put it to the test.

    As I said earlier I’m keeping you close…

  52. alan says:

    no you did not.
    you DISTINCTLY said i was banned.
    and it mattered not, and it matters not.

    i wonder where your ‘basket case’ mate is.
    maybe trying to unravel himself.

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