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God bothering in our schools

As an unbeliever and a good parent I don’t think that my children are likely to need the services of a school chaplain but I don’t have any strong negative feelings about there being someone employed at state schools being there to help those children who want a bit of guidance.

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This is likely to be one of those rare occasions where the opposition will support the government with any necessary legislation to ensure that the chaplaincy can continue to be funded. Now like many parents I get my children coming home with some strange ideas form school but I’m big enough to understand that it in is the nature of any centralised education that our children will sometimes be taught things that are utter nonsense. I have my children opted out of the Religious Education classes and that seems to have been enough to raise two confirmed heathens but there is no escaping the influences of their believing peers. The response I give them is to point out that there are many ways to understand the world and believing in God is just one of them. Frankly I don’t get the sort of militant atheism that is frightened by people of faith that they want to exclude their children from any hint of religiosity in their education. The world is very full of religious belief and the sooner that our children understand this the better they will get on in life. In any event it is the example that we give our offspring in the way that we live our lives that has a far greater influence on the people that they will become than any number of contacts with the religious.

Those who are really concerned about the influence of religious belief in our schools should perhaps be looking at the way that our children are being indoctrinated with the tenets of a far more pernicious  misanthropic millenarian  cult, not by their school chaplains but by their science teachers, namely the belief in Anthropogenic Global Warming which sort of makes the ideas of loving each other and being caring and helpful far more preferable than developing the self loathing for humanity as is desired by the Profits of the Green religion.  Ah well what do we expect when the government is about to introduce a giant new tax on everything based entirely on its religious belief that affordable  energy is bad.

Cheers Comrades

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3 Comments

  1. alan says:

    ignoring that i don’t like religion, those chaplains would mostly not have the skills to deal with troubled kids.
    they should be counselled by people that know what they are doing, rather than people that have no qualifications other than that they believe in something that exists only in their own head.

    why though do you need to link completely different subjects?
    what has global warming go to do with the high courts’ decision?
    it’s something you see when reading idiotic comments from dills on some sites.
    the news said it rained today……some idiot says, “well you can blame juliar for that.”.
    same thing

    and leaving aside any thoughts i may have on gw, why are you saying all science teachers are espousing a certain line?
    wouldn’t it be more honest to stick with what you know, rather than what your mind dreams up?

  2. deknarf says:

    In two minds here. Must say that I agree that having counsellors in schools selected for their religious beliefs rather than their professional expertise should be banned outright. These people do not have the competencies to assist and support troubled children. Telling such people that its ‘God’s will’ or that ‘God will provide’ doesn’t solve anything.
    Agree with Alan that your mention of Anthropogenic Global Warming is irrelevant to the argument. The two issues are not correlated.
    Finally: The evidence suggests that religion is a figment of homo sapiens imagination and the evidence indicates that Anthropogenic Global Warming is. Real that is.
    I raised my children to have open minds and to critically evaluate all sides of an argument before finalising their views. Does two things; confirms the strength of your belief, provides arguments to rebut the non-believer!

  3. Iain Hall says:

    Alan

    ignoring that I don’t like religion, those chaplains would mostly not have the skills to deal with troubled kids.

    Hmm I doubt that to be honest because I think that you are mistaken to assume that the sort of problems that kids have would all be terribly serious and fiendishly difficult, I think that such problems would be very much in the minority for the most part the issues are rather more simple and that is needed is the sort of advice that any sensible person can offer.

    they should be counselled by people that know what they are doing, rather than people that have no qualifications other than that they believe in something that exists only in their own head.

    Credentials are not everything Alan

    why though do you need to link completely different subjects?
    what has global warming go to do with the high courts’ decision?

    it’s something you see when reading idiotic comments from dills on some sites.
    the news said it rained today……some idiot says, “well you can blame juliar for that.”.
    same thing

    I thought that it was quite clear form my title and the way that I segued into that notion, AGW requires a faith as much as Jesus does and it is a faith spread by science teachers.

    and leaving aside any thoughts I may have on gw, why are you saying all science teachers are espousing a certain line?
    wouldn’t it be more honest to stick with what you know, rather than what your mind dreams up?

    I am sticking with what I know Alan after all what qualification do you have to make your living by gambling?

    deknarf

    In two minds here. Must say that I agree that having counsellors in schools selected for their religious beliefs rather than their professional expertise should be banned outright. These people do not have the competencies to assist and support troubled children. Telling such people that its ‘God’s will’ or that ‘God will provide’ doesn’t solve anything.

    I actaully think that your assumptions about what a chaplain would do in response to any particular issue raised by any student is somewhat stereotyped and dare I say it loaded with prejudice.

    Agree with Alan that your mention of Anthropogenic Global Warming is irrelevant to the argument. The two issues are not correlated.

    No as I said to Alan AGW is a theory that requires big slabs of blind faith and like other religions it makes lots of claims that are absolutely immune to being tested by the scientific method.

    Finally: The evidence suggests that religion is a figment of homo sapiens imagination and the evidence indicates that Anthropogenic Global Warming is. Real that is.

    Well if that is so then you will have no trouble in providing the evidence(validated by the scientific method)that shows that AGW is real

    I raised my children to have open minds and to critically evaluate all sides of an argument before finalising their views. Does two things; confirms the strength of your belief, provides arguments to rebut the non-believer!

    That is roughly my approach with my own children but they end up believing what you believe by a sort of osmosis anyway.

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