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“There is absolutely no margin for lying.” or Julia Gillard big wedgies and the preaching of the newly converted

I am sincerely glad that I no longer have to make excuses for the once admirable Labor party as I did in my younger days when I gave them my vote. Now when I hear Julia Gillard’s latest attempt to sell herself to the public on the basis of Labor being ” the only party that will put the needs of workers ahead of the very rich”*  I find myself reaching for an a medicine to stop me throwing up. Especially when the slogan is repeated more than once in a single interview (like Sunday’s “Meet the press” on TEN) Gillard is about as convincing as one of Gerry Anderson’s puppets when it comes to delivering any sort of idea to the public. We can all see the strings Julia and like those puppets Julia is entirely made of wood. Worse still that wood is clearly showing that even its grain is false, rather like that very cheap and nasty plywood panelling that was very popular in the 90’s. To think that any sensible person would vote for this woman to lead the country at the next election is just laughable yet that is just what the party movers and shakers are stuck with because they must simply feel that to change leaders now  would be too big a back-down . Obviously the strategy now is to go for the all in bet on a bluff and hope to hell that the people will not call the bet. I don’t particularly like Mark Latham but its very hard to disagree with what he says here:

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“There is absolutely no margin for lying.” has surely to be the inscription upon the tomb of the once great Labor party which has gone from a party run by and for the working class who had actaully had a life and real experience in the workplace to a party run by the university educated party apparatchiks who have only every worked for the party, who have never known what it is to be an ordinary family living an ordinary life, to be the sort of person that the party is supposed to be representing. This is where the Likes of Gillard with her background in the law fails to resonate with the Labor voters who have decided that they have voted Labor for the last time like they did here in Queensland just a few days ago. Its really a bit like religion this loyalty to a political party, people hang onto their faith for a very long time and they truly agonise about leaving that nice safe congregation but once they make the leap of faith elsewhere they stick to that new choice even more strongly that they did to their original faith. Further they become rather loud voices denouncing the party that they have so recently abandoned, Its why the phrase “there are none that preach as loudly as the newly converted” was coined to describe the phenomena. So this is Labor’s dilemma how do they change the leader to someone that they can convince the public to vote for or failing that how can they limit the damage so that the climb back from the dark pit of political oblivion is even possible within a reasonable time frame?

Cheers Comrades

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21 Comments

  1. Ray Dixon says:

    The only problem with Labor is its current leader. Geez, you’re taking it a bit far by writing the whole party’s future off. The simple (and inevitable) solution is to reinstate Rudd. Unscramble the egg. Right the wrong. Once that’s done they’ll at least be competitive at the next election.

  2. Iain Hall says:

    I disagree Ray because things are so bad for Labor now that a return to Rudd won’t win back those who have already decided to vote against Labor, they may get a few stragglers who will drift back but I can’t help imagining Gillard(or Rudd if he were to get up as leader)doing an Anna Bligh by begging the voters not to give the incoming Coalition government too big a majority.

    The fact remains that with the Carbon tax “locked in” Labor would have no chance of being re-elected even if they were to have changed to the leadership of the reincarnated Jesus Christ at the head of the party. Their prospects are, according to the polling released today in the same zone as Anna Bligh was just before the vote up here.

    Seriously its that bad for Labor that I think that no ambitious Labor MP would even want to challenge Gillard even if they had the numbers because they are sure to know that losing at the next election is a sure fire way to kill any chance they have of a long political career. Even Rudd won’t challenge for the same reason. He must surely realise that he may have a chance of doing a political Lazarus trick by rebuilding the party after their inevitable loss to Abbott but if he gets the leadership before then he will be finished forever.

  3. Ray Dixon says:

    That’s not what the opinion polls suggest, Iain. They suggest that a return of Rudd as PM would be a game changer. And I think you know that. And don’t worry, Rudd won’t have to challenge – he’ll be drafted back in by the end of the year.

  4. Iain Hall says:

    The most recent opinion poll with the most significant sample size was our state election Ray and in terms of measuring the trend it flat out obliterates the Nielson Poll out today. While the latter may give some hope Labor voters the former must surely strike terror into their hearts. federal Labor reduced to what? A rugby team? Things are really crook for Labor and it will take more than a leadership change band-aid (even to Kevin) to cover the festering canker well enough for them to be elect-able.
    That said they may well try to draft him back at the end of the year but you have to ask yourself will he accept such a poisoned chalice?
    I think that he won’t and that even if he did it would not be enough of a game changer to even get Labor in with any sort of chance.

  5. Ray Dixon says:

    Things are really crook for Labor and it will take more than a leadership change band-aid (even to Kevin) to cover the festering canker well enough for them to be elect-able

    That is only one opinion, Iain. Yours. The opinions of the electorate though, according to independent polls, is otherwise – i.e. a return to Rudd would make the next election a close run event. Yes, of course Labor will be wiped out a-la in QLD if Gillard stays on as PM. That is a given. But this is clearly a case of a very unpopular PM whose legitamacy to hold the job the public has never accepted. The fish rots from the head down so, in order to stop the rot, the head must be lopped.

  6. Paul says:

    I think its got less to do with leaders and more to do with simple ploicy, if she just got on with the job of stopping the boats and decreasing tax for working familes and gave up trying to destroy our country’s global competiveness with the odorless colorless gas tax then maybe she would have half a chance.

    Paul

  7. Iain Hall says:

    The fish rots from the head down so, in order to stop the rot, the head must be lopped.

    I like your metaphor Ray, even if I disagree with your argument!

  8. Ray Dixon says:

    I have to admit I stole it from my daughter. She used it once. You know, just like someone we know was “struck” by a certain phrase and then – years down the track – used it to give himself away.

  9. Iain Hall says:

    Yeah Paul I agree with you on that but she is so wedded to the Carbon tax package that I can’t see her actaully changing, likewise Labor are wedged on the boats, they know that politically they need to solve the problem but they also know that their left-wing will have a total fit if they go back to what actaully worked.They are in an absolutely lose /lose situation.
    Do they die by the gun or by the Knife?

  10. Leo says:

    No Boys,
    the Labor party should casting around in its ranks for a seductor/seductress.
    What is obviously needed is a Gareth-Gareth, Cheryl moment.
    They need to seduce Malcolm into taking the ALP leadership.

    Wins all round.
    Labor wins
    Liberals win
    and Malcolm wins can lead the nation and fulfil his destiny as he has written it.
    An absolute perfect Labor candidate. Has all those wonderful attributes so admired in the socialist set. A barrister, verily a cab for hire so principle isn’t a problem and Party change an afternoons study. Capable of a little noblesse oblige so long as he doesn’t have to talk to them and he certainly knows what best for everyone else.
    Only one draw back I can see. He has, unfortunately, made his fortune outside of government or the grants system but if they can get over Evan they will get over this although the worlds greatest treasurer might be a bit sniffy.

    However all in all a great fit and best solution for all involved. He gets to be PM only for a short time (the country wins) and then we can al get on with paying off the debt.
    Cheers

  11. Ray Dixon says:

    Any chance you’re affiliated with the Liberal Party, Leo? Sounds like it.

  12. Richard Ryan says:

    Over my dead body! Abbot will never be leader of this country. Shalom, dreamers.

  13. Leo says:

    Hi Ray,
    How did you pick that?
    But just an ordinary member who reads this blog and occasionally likes to add a penny’s worth here and there. The Labor dilemma strikes me as deserving to be viewed in a humorous light, not from enmity but from disappointment..

  14. Ray Dixon says:

    A guess, Leo. Shouldn’t you disclose political party affiliations though?

  15. Iain Hall says:

    Hi Leo
    I thought that your comment was just a bit of fun because Turnbull has far to big an ego to leave the possibility of being a senior minister in an Abbott government in exchange for being leader of perpetual Labor opposition. Remember that its better to be the second string rooster that a top shelf feather duster!

  16. Leo says:

    Hi Ray and Iain,
    No Ray I don’t think it relevant as I speak for myself as a person of (classical) Liberal persuasion and on my own behalf, certainly not the Liberal Party. And it seems you have picked up on my somewhat conservative viewpoint from the banter.

    Iain, you are correct, a little fun, while agreeing with the ego comment I think you may have underestimated it and not have it to be so large that he could well believe that if he swapped now he would salvage the party and transform it in his image and thereby win the next election and it would be Tony as the feather duster. (do I really need to put a smiley in)
    Cheers
    end of

  17. GD says:

    Any chance you’re affiliated with the Liberal Party, Leo? Sounds like it.

    Geez, Ray. Any chance you're affiliated with the Labor Party? I thought opinions on this blog were open for all.

  18. GD says:

    A blog owner edit would be appreciated here…

  19. Ray Dixon says:

    Edit done, GD.

    I’m not affiliated with the Labor Party, or any political party. My point is that party affiliations should be disclosed when making political comment. Not on every single comment but often enough for us to know.

  20. GD says:

    I think its got less to do with leaders and more to do with simple policy, if she just got on with the job of stopping the boats and decreasing tax for working familes and gave up trying to destroy our country’s global competiveness with the odorless colorless gas tax then maybe she would have half a chance.

    Thanks, Paul. That’s it in a nutshell. Changing leaders won’t do a damn thing. You can’t polish a turd. The Carbon Tax stinks, Fair Work is on the nose and the MRRT will throw us into a cesspit of stagnation as other nations take up the opportunities that we are throwing away, thanks to this government.

    South Africa has already put its hand up to take our mining billions.

    These idiots are killing the golden goose of mining. This industry which funds much of Australia will go offshore.They are penalising every successful business with their wasteful, unnecessary carbon tax. They’ve already spent the surplus from the previous government, and incurred their own astronomical deficit, the largest in Australian history.

    Clearly this is not a government or party to lead Australia.

    If ever “It’s Time” was appropriate, I’d say, right now!

  21. GD says:

    thanks Ray

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