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You could not invent this shit #Villawoodburns

The story of the Labor governments’ incompetence could not be written as a convincing dark satire and no issue illustrates it more starkly than the way that the “asylum seeker” issue has literally blown up in their faces.

Protesting detainees hurl tiles from the roof of Sydneys Villawood detention centre yesterday. Picture: Jane Dempster Source: The Australian

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How dumb is it to send a whole lot of rioters from Christmas Island to Villawood in Sydney and to then allow them to burn down another detention facility?

  You really can not invent stupidity of this magnitude! 

Of course this begs the question “Do we want the sort of people who act like this to be allowed to stay?  Further a rather horrid thought has just occurred to me and that is the sad fact that Wayne Swan is in the big chair at present, what with Joolia and Tim off to the Royal Wedding and all, so we are going to have the second string of a very manky guitar being strummed here in response to this incident….

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Un-fucking-believable!

Just shaking my head in disbelief  here Comrades


26 Comments

  1. Sax says:

    I don’t think anyone will be surprised at my reaction to this occurrence ?

    Refuel their leaky rent-a-boats, and point them towards whence they came ! The government is gutless. I guarantee they will only have to do it once, and it will send the message to the rest of them.

    The reason why processing takes so long ? It is done on purpose by these tossers. They purposely lose the very documentation that would qualify their status quickly, perhaps to hide their true status and intentions ?

  2. Iain Hall says:

    It Beggars belief that none of the rioters from Christmas Island have been charged and offered a choice between facing the courts and a possible ten stretch for arson or a quick plane trip back to where they came from.
    What I am waiting for is a big raft of excuse making form the usual suspects.

  3. Sax says:

    Dullard and her mates have nothing to gain here either way, hence their silences.

    Send them home or put them in gaol, and the bleeding hearts cry foul and protest.
    Let them stay, and every immigrant this country ever had, that was put through hell with selection interviews, unbelievable invasions of privacy (checking bank balances, qualifications et al) just to get into Australia , will go, quite legitmately, off their nuts ?

    It seems, unbeknown to her, that in fact her lack of action, or indeciveness, is doing her more harm than good. With this latest foray, the Princess in waiting, Abbott, must be salivating and quietly cheering them on ?

  4. Ray Dixon says:

    Iain, where is it confirmed that these rioters are the same ones who rioted at Christmas Island?

  5. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    I’ll admit that the Minister is denying that the Christmas Island rioters are involved :
    Mr Bowen could place no dollar figure on the damage sustained at the centre, but described it as “substantial”.

    He denied those involved in violent riots at the Christmas Island detention facility in March were engaged in the incident at Villawood overnight.

    “The advice I have to me is there is no evidence at all that anybody who was a person of interest in relation to the Christmas Island disturbance was involved in last night’s disturbance,” he said.
    source

    But please note the weasel words in his denial, its not absolute and I think that I recall hearing that the Christmas Island rioters were transferred to Villawood so its a reasonable assumption that those who have developed a taste for lighting fires at one detention facility are likely to be responsible for fires at another one

  6. Ray Dixon says:

    Sounds pretty clear to me, Iain. But if they were the same people then that just means there’s a core group of troublemakers. The thing is though, that he also pointed out the ringleaders were those who had their asylum applications rejected. So it’s a sour grapes thing. I dunno how this reflects badly on the government though. It’s like blaming the Cronulla riots on Howard, just because he was the PM at the time.

  7. Iain Hall says:

    Ray

    I dunno how this reflects badly on the government though. It’s like blaming the Cronulla riots on Howard, just because he was the PM at the time.

    Hmm I do seem to recall that of lot of minions of the left were doing precisely that 😉

  8. Ray Dixon says:

    Yes they did, Iain. And their claims had as much validity as yours do. So if you want to blame the present government for these riots, then I take it you also blame Howard for Cronulla? You can’t have it both ways, Iain.

  9. Iain Hall says:

    Actually Ray it is much easier to validly “blame the current government” for these riots simply because they are in direct control of the detention centres, whereas the Cronulla riots were in a public place that was under NSW state government jurisdiction. Further if the Federal Labor Government had not decided to fix a system that was not broken then there would not have been enough disgruntled illegal immigrants in either Christmas Island or Villawood detention centres for there to be riots in the first place.

  10. gigdiary says:

    How can you blame the Howard government for the Cronulla riots? Howard didn’t import the Middle Eastern youths. They were either born here or immigrated under previous governments. Howard’s policies didn’t cause the riots.

  11. Ray Dixon says:

    Oh, okay, Iain. So any riot in a government jail (which is what a detention centre is) is the fault of the government then? So all those riots at Long Bay were Joh’s fault? And Carl Williams’ murder was the Victorian government’s fault? Have you ever heard the saying that when you cage a man like an animal he tends to behave like one? No problems at Woomera during Howard’s time? I see.

  12. Ray Dixon says:

    I didn’t blame Howard for Cronulla, GD. Not directly, at least, like Iain has with Villawood. The point is that riots happen, regardless of who is in government. Very “easy”, as Iain says, to point the finger at the government.

    (Btw, do you seriously believe the Lebos started the Cronulla riots? That they attacked the thousands of ‘Aussie patriots’ waving Aussie flags?)

  13. Ray Dixon says:

    Just to set the record straght on Cronulla. From wikipedia:

    The 2005 Cronulla riots were a series of sectarian clashes and mob violence originating in Cronulla, New South Wales and spreading, over the next few nights, to additional Sydney suburbs.

    On 4 December 2005, a group of volunteer surf lifesavers were assaulted by a group of young men of Middle Eastern appearance, with several other violent assaults occurring over the next week. These incidents were widely reported * and commented on in Sydney media. An initially peaceful crowd gathered in the morning of 11 December 2005 and by midday, approximately 5,000 people gathered at Cronulla beach to protest against a recent spate of violence against locals.

    However, fuelled by alcohol, the crowd turned to violence when a young man of “Middle Eastern appearance”[1] was spotted on the beach. He was surrounded by a crowd outside a local hotel and attacked. Retaliatory riots also took place that night and on subsequent nights, resulting in extensive property damage and several more assaults, including one stabbing and even some attacks against ambulance and police officers.

    * The “wide reporting” (and urging for retaliation), was mainly conducted by redneck radio announcer Alan Jones.

  14. gigdiary says:

    Ray, if the Gillard government had retained Howard’s immigration policy, instead of caving into the ‘open door’ beliefs of the left, these detention centre riots wouldn’t be happening. Howard’s policy was working. We still had a strong immigration program, but now Labor has ‘fixed’ what wasn’t broken to appease the do-gooders and Greenies, and this is the result.

  15. gigdiary says:

    btw, please don’t suggest wikipedia can ‘set the record straight’.

  16. gigdiary says:

    There is a difference between incarcerated criminals rioting and asylum seekers rioting. Asylum seekers are ‘asking’ for entry into the country. Seems a funny way to show it. If the period taken to process their claims is too long, then once again, that is something the Gillard government has had three years to address.

    If these rioters have been denied resident status, they should be returned to their place of origin, again something that the Gillard shemozzle should be dealing with, rather than simply dismantling Howard’s policy and allowing all-comers in, then stacking them in detention centres.

    Labor can’t have a bob each way on this one. They need to act, not placate the chattering classes.

  17. Ray Dixon says:

    GD,

    1. This is 2011, not 2001 – 2007. The increase in asylum seekers is not due solely to the ALP’s policies, if at all. It’s more about world events. And Howard’s ‘solution’ was not working either. You just didn’t hear about it because it was on Nauru. Out of sight out of mind, eh?

    2. Do you dispute the wikipedia summary? Sounds right to me.

    3. So rioting in jails is acceptable to you? No blame on the government if prisoners burn down the jail, etc as they have done in the past? I see.

  18. gigdiary says:

    Ray, I find it hard to fathom that you can’t see the difference between rioting by prisoners, who have been convicted of crimes, and have little to lose other than an early parole, and these hot-heads at Villawood. Of course prisoners will riot on occasion, that’s part of the so called rehabilitation process.

    Supposed refugees from war-torn countries rioting, pillaging and destroying the facilities they have been given is completely different. Given that some of them have been refused entry explains their no-win situation, yet others, also on the roof and lighting fires, are still awaiting processing. They don’t seem like great candidates for future Australian citizenship, do they?

    In fact, if the latte sippers win this one, we’ll have another generation from the Middle East settling in Australia, unable or unwilling to assimilate, accessing welfare far beyond the norm and creating yet more enclaves of primitive nationhood in what once was our open country. You once asked me if I had seen a burqa wearing woman, yes, of course I have. I live near Bankstown and Lakemba in Sydney. In my memory, in the 80s, these suburbs were once accessible to anyone, Chinese, European, Vietnamese, now they are almost no-go zones. Yes, I have seen full-face veil wearing women, and it’s not something I imagined I’d ever see in Australia.

    Immigration is well and fine when it is a considered process. Unfortunately, since 1970, that hasn’t been the case. Immigrants in the fifties and sixties have assimilated, maintained their cultural ties and contributed to our society. I doubt you could say the same thing about the past thirty years of Lebanese and Arab immigration.

    Second generation Arab youths rioted at Cronulla. No generation of Italians, Greeks, Germans and Chinese has so hated this country enough to stick their nose up at it, let alone participate in such wanton destruction as did the Middle Eastern boys as they made their way from the west to Cronulla. Cars, property were vandalised across many suburbs.

    And all because of the cultural differences. Unlike the Europeans, the Asians, these Arab youths weren’t brought up to be part of our society, but to be part of their archaic society ‘back home’.

    This is not multiculturalism, it’s an invasion.

    Open your eyes. This is a problem in Europe, massively so, why do we risk it here?

  19. Sax says:

    Wow GD, touché !

    It is still OUR choice to whether or not we accept this type of situation will become the norm, or do we finally have the guts, ignore the “political correctness rules” brigade, stand up and say NO MORE !

    For people who are supposedly so desperate for a new life, even due to understandable and undeniable frustration, to act this way, is a mystery to me. If it were me, and I was so frightened of being returned to my country, I would just sit there, in silence, doing everything I was told, and anything else it took to play the little bureaucratic games, to ensure that I wasn’t sent back ?

  20. Sax says:

    BTW, just on the news, some of the identified troublemakers now in the slammer. That’s a start I guess ?

  21. Ray Dixon says:

    I won’t even bother responding to that, GD. You just jumped from rioting asylum seekers to immigration in general. Have a good Easter.

  22. Iain Hall says:

    According to the OZ:

    The Immigration Department confirmed 22 detainees considered “persons of interest” in yesterday’s rioting were transported to Sydney’s Silverwater jail this morning after detainees torched nine buildings and pelted fire-fighters with tiles and other obstacles.

    That’s a start as you say Sax but why are those responsible for the fires on Christmas Island also in Jail?

  23. Sax says:

    Because those responsible for that decision, are politically scared of the backlash from the bleeding hearts in the wings. BTW, the same bleeding hearts that sit there for the same handouts, run around the place in their moccies, and continually bite the hand that feeds them ? Unfortunately, they have the vote as well ?

  24. Angel says:

    Ray – It is the government’s actions that are to blame. Look at Pontville (Hobart), no consultation with the community at all. Backdooring and the premier calling the residents racists in Mercury newspaper today. It is a fact that these men have flown by plane to Indonesia then burnt their documents to boat here, and that what makes them “ilegals”, and thus a government issue. Cronulla was from built up tensions due to previous immigration policies that did not assimilate new arrivals, and the government still has not learnt. My husband has fought on their soil, my sister lives near Pontville. Burning commonwealth government buildings is an act of terrorism. What charges did the Christmas Island illegals get? Are they still here being pampered (nose hair trimmers, methodone program, meat slaughter requirements, confectionery, air conditioning, tv, computers, clothing, education, personal trainers, mobile phones etc) When I can afford to run my aircon in North Qld, then they can have such. So many here have needs which are neglected.

  25. Iain Hall says:

    Welcome to the Sandpit Angel 😉

    The 22 taken to Silverwater are not enjoying such luxuries at present, which is only right and I read an interesting quirk of the law is that as immigration detainees there is no obligation to charge them in haste lest a writ of habeas corpus be lodged to secure their freedom.

  26. gigdiary says:

    ‘Cronulla was from built up tensions due to previous immigration policies that did not assimilate new arrivals, and the government still has not learnt.’

    That’s precisely the point. While we acknowledge we no longer have a ‘White Australia’ policy, we need also recognise that inviting any and all-comers here can be detrimental to even the most liberal interpretations of Australian society as we know it.

    By all means divide the world’s population by demographic, race and ethnic origin, then distribute them across the globe in equal numbers. Guess what, it ain’t gonna work.

    You need the richer countries to pull up the poorer countries. Whether the Left like it or not, the West have developed a culture that is beneficial to humanity, rather than those cultures they support that are detrimental to people.

    Being forced to accept people from cultures that are clearly antagonistic to Western ways is a recipe for social disaster. Australia is under no obligation to accept hot-heads from the MIddle East. Simple as that. Jump on the roof, burn the facilities you have been given, sorry we are under no obligation to admit your kind into our country.

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