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Goodbye Sweden

Pat is right on the money here and this should be a warning for all countries who embrace political correctness and the Swedish model.

Deeply saddened  Comrades

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  1. Sax says:

    Sweden has always been seen, and always has wanted to be seen, as Eu’s most forward thinking and progressive country in the union. Added to that of course, freedoms, (legal and political), still unheard of elsewhere on the planet, are par for the course there. Their outward appearance, being seen as being forward thinking, multi culturally balanced, an advanced society is what they are striving for (and have been for years) fervently, almost to the point of paranoia.

    There are many questions that come to mind after watching both videos Iain ?
    The first, and most important ?

    The muslim religion is seeking world dominance, at least at first in the religion industry. That point cannot be disputed. They are reaching around the world with such a feverish desire unheard of previously. Even the Catholics were somewhat conservative, in their campaigns in comparison. Sweden, in its desire to appear to be politically correct, and forward thinking, have been unwilling to stem such infiltration, in the fear of upsetting that reputation. Then, oops, the Muslims start off, infiltrate, and before you know it all hell breaks loose. Not unlike what is happening, and what will continue to happen in Sydney etc, as well as all around the planet.

    Even though I feel Pat is being a tad alarmist here, his view is valid, and should be a concern.

    How far do go, or how far should we have to go, to accommodate a religion in our society ?

    In allowing that religious freedom, which is a guaranteed part of most Eu type societies, how far should we allow that freedom, to change, or attempt to dominate our societies ?

    Religion is like a business. One will always attempt to dominate the rest for many reasons. Too many to list here, and I don’t know all of them, as I am not part of that push to assist any religion attempting to dominate the rest. When, in that fervor, do the rest of us finally step up to the plate, sick of the damage done due to our apathy, goodwill, and yes, perhaps even a little fear as well, (which they play on ?), and say hang on, NO ! , enough is enough ?

    Unfortunately, due to the rise in Islam around the world, it is like a plague, and in the future one that will be unstoppable. Do us non muslims around the world, in say twenty years time, after watching Islam walk all over the planet, as non believers, have to walk around wearing a t/shirt saying we are non believers ? Not unlike the Jews in the second world war ? I can see that coming, or even worse ?

  2. Iain Hall says:

    Sax

    How far do go, or how far should we have to go, to accommodate a religion in our society ?

    In allowing that religious freedom, which is a guaranteed part of most Eu type societies, how far should we allow that freedom, to change, or attempt to dominate our societies ?

    well they are the most pertinent questions that our Latte sipping friends actually want to avoid even considering let alone answering

  3. Sax says:

    That is why religious extremism is currently very successful Iain.
    It prays on that ignorance and even arrogance. To use the analogy of the buzzing mosquito around the ear, what happens, when the natural extension arrives, when there a million mozzies buzzing around the same ear ? One or two is controllable, but a swarm ? That is what naturally develops when apathy is allowed to rise and rule. It is not a mindless panic on my part, nor religious discrimination, but what will occur if we allow this apathy to continue under the guise of freedom of religion ?

  4. Iain Hall says:

    The analogy of a frog in a cooking pot comes to mind Sax and what I am concerned with is that western society is looking just a bit too green on the issue

  5. Eric Sykes says:

    “How far do go, or how far should we have to go, to accommodate a religion in our society ?”

    I can think of no reason at all why any religion would need to be “accommodated” at all. So let’s take all those chaplains and their religious propaganda out of all our schools in Australia as quickly as possible.

    “In allowing that religious freedom, which is a guaranteed part of most Eu type societies, how far should we allow that freedom, to change, or attempt to dominate our societies ?”

    What you mean like, say, Christmas and Easter dominate our society? If you wanna go to the church or the mosque that’s your business, let’s end the idiotic “prayers” at the start of our secular parliament as well shall we? Then at least we’d be able to hold our heads up when we bang on about Islam, or any other religion for that matter “dominating society”. LOL.

    Further: the two videos presented are the most silly scaremongering rubbish I have seen for a very long time. To think that people are so gullible as to take these two idiots seriously is a clear wake up call to all reasonable people……prejudice and idiotic far right propaganda are alive and well.

  6. Iain Hall says:

    Eric
    You “Politically Correct” types are most amusing I don’t think that you realise just how morally inconsistent you actually when it comes are the issues of religion in society lets look at what you are saying in detail shall we?

    I can think of no reason at all why any religion would need to be “accommodated” at all. So let’s take all those chaplains and their religious propaganda out of all our schools in Australia as quickly as possible.

    When it comes comes to our state schools I tend to agree with you but having two children in a state school I think your fear/loathing is actually rather misplaced because I know that the extent of religious influence in the curriculum is actually quite small.

    What you mean like, say, Christmas and Easter dominate our society? If you wanna go to the church or the mosque that’s your business, let’s end the idiotic “prayers” at the start of our secular parliament as well shall we? Then at least we’d be able to hold our heads up when we bang on about Islam, or any other religion for that matter “dominating society”. LOL.

    Both Christmas and Easter are actually quite nice social festivals that can trace their origins back to pagan seasonal celebrations and frankly I see nothing wrong in them being publicly celebrated even in a largely secular society like our own After all what is not to like about giving gifts to those you live and sharing good will to all men? Likewise Easter celebrated growth and rebirth and frankly who does not like an excuse to share chocolate? You see there is absolutely no reason that we as a society has to abandon life affirming festivals as a pre requisite for being critical of Islam.

    Further: the two videos presented are the most silly scaremongering rubbish I have seen for a very long time. To think that people are so gullible as to take these two idiots seriously is a clear wake up call to all reasonable people……prejudice and idiotic far right propaganda are alive and well.

    I assume that you are an atheist so I would really like you to explain why you can be scathing about the largely benign influence of Christianity in this country and yet you are so keen to provide a blanket endorsement of anything done ion the name of Allah.

  7. Eric Sykes says:

    “largely benign influence of Christianity”…????????

    sigh

  8. Iain Hall says:

    Is that all you have Eric?

  9. Sax says:

    I don’t think scaremongering is what Pat has in mind guys. His logic, in many matters, was and is common sense, and informative and designed to raise argument, not panic. To say that it is scaremongering, just shows me, that you are somewhat (and am loathe to use the term here, and is not meant to be abusive in any way), ignorant of the whole issue.

    To keep it short, Christianity is as guilty as the rest of them, in the damage it has caused over the centuries, but modern western religion does not tell you to strap c4 to your chest, and blow up a plaza or building of non believers does it ?
    That is my concern. I believe in freedom of religion, but fundamentalism, or Fundamentalist Islam is not a religion, but a cult, and a bloody dangerous one at that. In that regard, with the damage it has done around the planet in the last twenty odd years, the runs are on the board, and cannot be disputed.

    Thomas Jefferson once said ?
    “The price of freedom, is eternal vigilance.”

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