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Just a short post this morning about a personal observation of the election campaign.

Yesterday when I was out doing my shopping at Westfield  Strathpine  I happened across my local member Peter Dutton doing a little very low key campaigning, basically he was just chatting with constituents when I noticed a man and a woman   in Blue tee shirts with Anti-Dutton slogans printed on them (they were so obvioulsy ALP people). Their purpose was obviously to harass and heckle our local member. After the ALP idiot staffer in the red bathers heckling Tony Abbott  and the Warminista who tried to harass Julia Gillard yesterday this may well end up being the election campaign  of the heckler.

It is surely a sign of desperation from the incumbent party that they feel the need to do such things but what can you expect from the party that  the most ardent supporters are making every excuse for even though they know that they are serving nothing but spin.

ALP supporters are definitely running on an “the ends justify the means ” mindset so they will swallow any shit that is served up by way of policy even though they know that is  precisely what it is that Julia is serving up to them.

I am actually very much reminded of the tactics used by the ALP way back in 1975 when they were desperate to try to get Gough back into the Lodge, Fortunately it did not work then and surely sensible people have to be hoping that it does not work this time either.

Cheers Comrades


12 Comments

  1. Ray Dixon says:

    Iain, the ALP HAS policies, the Libs don’t. If you are referring to something I said yesterday, I stand by that. Gillard has not had long enough in offoice to re-establish new policy direction so, yes indeed, she is out there talking “spin” in a bid to get re-elected. It’s not “desperation” by me or by the ALP, it’s just called reality & politics. Btw, the Liberals are no cleanskins when it comes to dirty tricks and if a heckler or two is all you can call the ALP on then I think you should get off your sanctimonious moral high hose.

  2. Iain Hall says:

    Ray
    I have been following politics since the seventies and the tone of the ALP this time shows a total lack of real confidence just as I said in my post. They are , just as you suggest, totally trying to go with the “trust us we don’t have the answers but we will get them after you re-elect us” line. Frankly Gillard is not doing a great job even at that. Their “east Timor solution” has collapsed in a heap, they can’t run on their record (which is woeful on just about every level) so all they have is trying to inspire the true believers like yourself with vague promises, they have dirty tricks (like the hecklers) and the very twee attempts to use fear tactics about the opposition. But the problem is that such things can and do backfire badly. Just as the sort of dirty tricks by desperate libs were ultimately counter productive. So too will the idiot tricks like those I saw yesterday will bite the arse of those who try them because swinging voters(who really count in an election) don’t like or buy such things.

  3. Len says:

    lack of confidence ?
    Man, her body language is already showing defeat.
    They are going to get creamed !

  4. Ray Dixon says:

    Of course you’re both conveniently ignoring the opinion polls that show a walloping for Abbott. Not that I place much store in those polls but I find it interesting that you ignore them completely.

    Outside of Queensland & W.A. though, Iain, I think you’ll find the Libs will make no ground at all and the ALP might pick up a seat or two. It is going to be close in my opinion – due to the high number of very marginal seats the ALP holds – but your barracking from the sidelines is about as one-eyed as the Collingwood cheer squad.

    I doubt that Julia is checking in here daily to get some feedback but if she did, she’d hardly be concerned with the absurd things you’re calling her on. For Christ’s sake, she is a new PM and has quite literally had no opportunity to develop new policy directions so why shouldn’t she be saying exactly that? That is in essence what she is doing – telling people she’s prepared to listen and change direction where necessary.

  5. Ray Dixon says:

    “They are going to get creamed!”

    I shall bank that quote and bring it out on August 22, Len.

  6. Len says:

    Oh ye of little faith.
    Can’t wait for that one to come back and bite you !
    😉

  7. Iain Hall says:

    Oh I am certainly not ignoring the opinion polls Ray but as they all say the Poll that counts is the one when everyone votes so I’m not calling a result beforehand (unlike Lynot who is way out on a limb here ) But when even you concede that Gillard has done a really crap job of selling what are really just window dressing policies that they won’t even keep if they sneak back into government. So all that means that the only argument that you can mount to vote for Gillard is to try to raise the Ghosts of John Howard’s government.
    Its a very weak reason to vote Labor especially when you consider that the coalition have definitively denounced and repudiated the WorkChoices package that was the main reason that they were voted out in 2007.
    So the swinging voters who were were swayed by the union campaign on WorkChoices can vote against a bad Labor government with confidence that the IR regime that worried them is gone forever.
    Labor have stuffed up just about everything that hey have tried to do over the last three years and I really think that they just have no political credit left with the voting public. If they loose this time they are destined for a very long time in the political wilderness.

  8. Ray Dixon says:

    Iain, I hate to say this but … “It’s the economy, stupid” (not my quote and not directly directed @ you).

    The bottom line will be, in my opinion, that come polling day people will ask themselves two questions:

    1) Am I better or worse off for 3 years under this government?

    2) Do I want Julia Gillard or Tony Abbott running the place?

    Which will convert into a Labor win … in my opinion.

  9. Iain Hall says:

    Ray I am well aware of your oft cited adage But do you really think that voters are going to look at their personal sitiations and atruibute their good fortune to Rudd and Gillard? Or ddo you think that they might just say to them selves something al;ong these lines:
    I know that we have just got through the GFC in pretty good shape but maybe that was more good luck than good financial management form that mob in Canberra who don’t seem capable of organizing any of their grand programs so that they deliver their promises (“a computer for every school child”, indigenous housing ect) and they can’t responsibly run a building program or put insulation into people’s houses with out the costs going ballistic, Hmm. Then there is the debt question, the other mob kept us in surpluses and this mob have us very deep in deficit… If its a good economy now then three more years of this mob will send bankrupt like Greece….
    Yes Ray it is all about the economy and this mob don’t deserve to run it, which the voters will consider on the 21st!

  10. Ray Dixon says:

    I think more swinging voters will say the former, Iain and the rusted-on conservatives will agree with you. You seem to forget (conveniently) that the Liberals opposed the stimulus package all the way. The Govt of the day gets credit for the economy, regardless of how it was achieved. Better luck in 2013.

  11. lynot says:

    “Anyway would you please prove that you do in fact have a $1500 bet on the result a scan of the chit will do please send it to my email address”

    Of course you are just having a laugh Iain?I wont be sending you Jack shit.You have more front than the Westfield shopping centre demanding this.You will have to take my word for it!. You Sir are a cad and I demand a retraction 🙂

    Iain like I said, I will always give you credit for defending lost causes.Your mate Abbott is like a punch drunk boxer, he doesn’t know when to quit.Again I have to refer to Ray Dixons comments above.I just can’t be bothered to keep telling you the obvious like Ray, who has obviously more patience than my good self, him being your mate an all.

    My whole polemic on this election is only based on one thing “Abbott” he is not going to be P.M. as long as my anus points to the ground.Iain if you can’t read the body language of this man, I presume you must be lousy at cards as well as human sociology?He is as shallow as the day is long.

    The Australian people are more than cognizant of the fact of what is in store for them, should this ignoramus be elected.Iain all your talk of asylum seekers, G.W. pink batts etc, is all for nout,What will count is interest rates, jobs/security,and working conditions.

    You can say what you like, Abbott’s whole persona smacks of something out of a Charles Dickens novel, and it sticks out like dogs nurry’s.Australians are on to this man, and if it had been Turnbull at the helm I would not have made a bet.

  12. Iain Hall says:

    Lynot

    Of course you are just having a laugh Iain?I wont be sending you Jack shit.You have more front than the Westfield shopping centre demanding this.You will have to take my word for it!. You Sir are a cad and I demand a retraction 🙂

    I have said nothing that requires a retraction, all that I have asked is that you back up your oft repeated claim that you have money riding on the result of this election, that you refuse to do so says heaps about the veracity of your claim in the first instance and your rancour about me asking for proof of this claim is most amusing.

    Iain like I said, I will always give you credit for defending lost causes.Your mate Abbott is like a punch drunk boxer, he doesn’t know when to quit.Again I have to refer to Ray Dixons comments above.I just can’t be bothered to keep telling you the obvious like Ray, who has obviously more patience than my good self, him being your mate an all.

    Well I am happy to give Ray some credit when it comes to the coming election because despite his desire to see Labor re-elected I think he retains some doubt and he is realistic enough not to believe that Gillard will gain seats even if she manages to hold enough seats to retain government.

    My whole polemic on this election is only based on one thing “Abbott” he is not going to be P.M. as long as my anus points to the ground.Iain if you can’t read the body language of this man, I presume you must be lousy at cards as well as human sociology?He is as shallow as the day is long.

    Could one person mix so many metaphors in on sentence and sound so unconvincing as you do?

    The Australian people are more than cognizant of the fact of what is in store for them, should this ignoramus be elected.Iain all your talk of asylum seekers, G.W. pink batts etc, is all for nout,What will count is interest rates, jobs/security,and working conditions.

    Yes well may be they are going to welcome good governance, mores substance than spin and a government who can balance the books while paying off Labor’s massive debt burden.

    You can say what you like, Abbott’s whole persona smacks of something out of a Charles Dickens novel, and it sticks out like dogs nurry’s.Australians are on to this man, and if it had been Turnbull at the helm I would not have made a bet.

    Actually I think that people are warming to him more than you think because they actuality respect someone with conviction rather than a tightly controlled public image.

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