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Do you honestly think that you could come back from this Mark?

I don’t have much to add to this sad story, the title says it all really. Over a serries of posts on the issue of false accusations of rape Mark L had been insisting that he could bounce back Fine and Dandy from being in a similar position to Terry Harrison in the quote bellow.

A man maliciously accused of a rape he didn’t commit is calling for a change in the law after speaking out about what he describes as the worst 11 months of  his life.

Terry Harrison, 34, lost his home and had it attacked and burgled after single mother Shirley Prince, 42, claimed he raped her during a house party in May last year.

She admitted perverting the course of justice last Tuesday and was jailed for three months after appearing at Durham Crown Court.

Terry Harrison was maliciously accused of rape and says he endured the worst 11 months of his life because of it

'It was hell': Terry Harrison was maliciously accused of rape and says he endured the worst 11 months of his life because of it

As part of his bail conditions Terry wasn’t allowed to visit his home town and missed family birthdays and a funeral.

He also lost the tenancy on his house and was forced to live in a hostel in  Middlesbrough for five months.

In an attempt to deal with his ordeal he turned to alcohol and sleeping pills.

Terry, from Newton Aycliffe, County Durham, where Prince is also from, said: ‘It was hell, I felt lower than low and several times I contemplated killing myself.

‘I thought about chucking myself off the Tyne Bridge.

‘It was horrible. I was tossing and turning every night, I could never sleep.

‘My windows were put through.

‘I just had to get on with it. I kept thinking: ‘Is this really happening?’ I couldn’t believe it.

‘I cannot believe how long the lies went on for.

‘I kept expecting it to be over. I thought she would tell the truth or police would drop it when they found no DNA – but it went on and on.

‘It is one of the worst crimes I could imagine and something I would never do.

‘I was going insane with the accusations going round my head, being away from my home town and friends and family.

‘The law should definitely be changed, it’s not right that innocent men are named and shamed for something they haven’t done.

‘Men guilty of rape deserve everything they get, but I didn’t deserve it.’

Terry also fell victim to vigilantes while under police investigation.

He said: ‘I was spat at in the street, I had my windows put through and my house was  burgled.

‘I just wanted to be believed but with a case like this people judge you to be guilty until proven innocent.

‘I felt so ashamed, I felt like everyone looking at me thought I was a rapist, I was losing my head thinking about it.

I actually think that Mark is talking absolute bollocks on this issue, and he knows it,  because he has said that he would not support the employment of a teacher with any sort of cloud over his head “for the safety of the children”. Now as I see it If it is reasonable to suppress the name of a complainant in a rape case then it should be good enough to suppress the name of the accused as well, until a conviction is secured.
Cheers Comrades
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My bold added


5 Comments

  1. Mark L. says:

    Until you answer the question of whether you’d be happy with an accused and exonerated paedophile teaching your children, Iain, I’m not going to accept too much you say. There’s so many holes in your case that I don’t think I have to say too much anyway.

    You go digging for these stories of false accusation (and I note that the two or three you’ve found come from England, you’ve yet to produce one from Australia) but they add nothing to your case because they are so rare. The same applies to teachers. I don’t panic about false allegations that might ruin my career because I have never, ever heard of such a situation occurring. People gossip and whisper but they simply do not make and follow through malicious allegations through any formal process, and you trying to argue that it is likely is idiotic to the n-th degree.

    So here is a summary of Iain Hall on this issue thus far:

    – he condemns those believe in man-made global warming because they say ‘the sky is falling’ – then he rants about the danger posed to men by false accusations of rape
    – he tells me that my life would be ruined by false allegations of sexual impropriety – and then in the next post accuses those who teach homosexuality to primary children of “grooming” them (!!)
    – he stands up for teachers and paramedics who are ‘unfairly accused’ but won’t explicitly state whether he’d be happy with his daughter being taught or treated by either – the sign of a flimsy principle
    – he complains of the treatment dished out to those falsely accused of sexual assault but is remarkably silent on Dr Haneef, who received much the same treatment… but he’s a foreigner, of course, so that’s different

    Iain, you are the funniest man on the whole Internets!

  2. Iain Hall says:

    Until you answer the question of whether you’d be happy with an accused and exonerated paedophile teaching your children, Iain, I’m not going to accept too much you say. There’s so many holes in your case that I don’t think I have to say too much anyway.

    Mark I’ll tell you this if I am worried about anyone who has contact with my children I would not hesitate to act to protect them and just like any other parent I would make a call at the time depending on my own personal judgement of the individual involved and just what contact with my children I would allow. That goes for every teacher, and sports instructor professional carer family friend or whatever. Now I think that it answers your question.

    You go digging for these stories of false accusation (and I note that the two or three you’ve found come from England, you’ve yet to produce one from Australia) but they add nothing to your case because they are so rare. The same applies to teachers. I don’t panic about false allegations that might ruin my career because I have never, ever heard of such a situation occurring. People gossip and whisper but they simply do not make and follow through malicious allegations through any formal process, and you trying to argue that it is likely is idiotic to the n-th degree.

    Mark i can assure you that no digging is required to find them at all which suggests that they are more common than you are willing to admit.
    It is not your lack of panic that I suggest is the problem it is your claim that were you personally accused that you would suffer no substantial consequences in the longer term when the allegations are proven false, yet every example I have presented on this topic says that the accused persons have had their lives ruined beyond redemption.

    – he condemns those believe in man-made global warming because they say ‘the sky is falling’

    Funnily enough I have never seen any correlation between belief in “Global Warming” and false accusations of rape, if you care to explain the linkage I would be most interested to hear it 😆

    – then he rants about the danger posed to men by false accusations of rape

    and I prove each time that those falsely accused suffer great injustice from those malicious lies. An justice that you are indifferent to Mark.

    – he tells me that my life would be ruined by false allegations of sexual impropriety – and then in the next post accuses those who teach homosexuality to primary children of “grooming” them (!!)

    Well thank you for proving my point here if the intention was to teach the children not to hate people because they happen to be Gay there would nothing to object too but your slip of the keyboard above highlights the problem.

    – he stands up for teachers and paramedics who are ‘unfairly accused’ but won’t explicitly state whether he’d be happy with his daughter being taught or treated by either – the sign of a flimsy principle

    I am happy for my daughter to be treated or taught by anyone of good character who will not pose a threat to her and in the end it comes down to the situation as I have stated above.

    – he complains of the treatment dished out to those falsely accused of sexual assault but is remarkably silent on Dr Haneef, who received much the same treatment… but he’s a foreigner, of course, so that’s different

    Ah the Good doctor who gave his terrorist cousin his sim card (which he does not deny) and then when the cousin self immolated in pursuit of Jihad tried to leave the country on a one way ticket. Just how is that comparable to a man falsely accused of rape by a woman? and I was far from silent on that issue as i pointed out that such a case poses quite a problem requiring a fine balance between protecting society and not unduly impinging on the civil liberties of individuals.

  3. Mark L. says:

    Mark I’ll tell you this if I am worried about anyone who has contact with my children I would not hesitate to act to protect them and just like any other parent I would make a call at the time depending on my own personal judgement of the individual involved and just what contact with my children I would allow. That goes for every teacher, and sports instructor professional carer family friend or whatever. Now I think that it answers your question.

    No, it didn’t – you gave a generic answer about teachers and guardians. You are avoiding the issue which means you can’t provide an honest answer, and that means your principle is about as strong as straw.

    Mark i can assure you that no digging is required to find them at all which suggests that they are more common than you are willing to admit.

    From recollection you’ve posted three in the past year or so and they’ve all come from the UK. Where are the examples from Australia? (You and I do live in Australia, after all.) If they are so common, find me another two or three from here, otherwise you risk sounding like a paranoid bullshitter, pointing to one or two cases and declaring that they are the norm.

    Well thank you for proving my point here if the intention was to teach the children not to hate people because they happen to be Gay there would nothing to object too but your slip of the keyboard above highlights the problem.

    Pretty weak Iain. Is that really the best you can do?

    Ah the Good doctor who gave his terrorist cousin his sim card (which he does not deny) and then when the cousin self immolated in pursuit of Jihad tried to leave the country on a one way ticket.

    Who was falsely accused of colluding with terrorists by the Howard government – only to be exonerated, have his visa reinstated at his request and for the AFP to cease its investigation on him after finding nothing. Yet you, Iain Hall, superblogger, are still on the case. And, I note, doing exactly the same thing that you’re blasting a couple of women for – hounding and accusing someone on false pretences.

  4. Iain Hall says:

    No, it didn’t – you gave a generic answer about teachers and guardians. You are avoiding the issue which means you can’t provide an honest answer, and that means your principle is about as strong as straw.

    Mark now you are desperately trying to find a reason to dismiss my legitimate answer, that I will judge each individual on their merits. How is that dishonest? In any case you wanted an answer and it is just being a bad sport if you don’t like the one I give you.

    From recollection you’ve posted three in the past year or so and they’ve all come from the UK. Where are the examples from Australia? (You and I do live in Australia, after all.) If they are so common, find me another two or three from here, otherwise you risk sounding like a paranoid bullshitter, pointing to one or two cases and declaring that they are the norm.

    Oh i will write about any Aussie examples Mark, if and when I come across any but as I said this morning I do not go out searching for them they just turn up

    Pretty weak Iain. Is that really the best you can do?

    😆 Mark I get you on your own sloppy wording and you lack the good grace to admit your mistake…. I am hardly surprised though.

    Who was falsely accused of colluding with terrorists by the Howard government – only to be exonerated, have his visa reinstated at his request and for the AFP to cease its investigation on him after finding nothing.

    I would come at mistakenly accused at this point Mark given the extensive investigation But do you have any evidence that he was “falsely accused” I think not because that would have required his arrest to be based upon a malicious lie and his troubles were not caused by that now were they? they were caused by his own actions that were rather suspicious in the light of his family relationship with a Jihadist terrorist who did not manage to earn his virgins…

    Yet you, Iain Hall, superblogger, are still on the case. And, I note, doing exactly the same thing that you’re blasting a couple of women for – hounding and accusing someone on false pretences.

    Mark that is bollocks the only time I have mentioned the good Doctor recently has been in response to your demands that I do so, that is by no stretch of the imagination me being on his case.

  5. Ed Grunt says:

    Remember Lindy Chamberlain?
    How her, and her husband’s lives were shattered and destroyed by a media hell bent on condeming her. Yet she was innocent of any crime.

    Even today, from those that remember, some still believe in her guilt!

    Commercial news organisations in Oz are among the worst globally at impartiality, and getting it right.

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