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Thursday quadrille

Hard to decide which of these items to write about so I am writing about all of them.  first example I think that we can only draw a gasping breath of surprise as we find that the Fairfax press has actually published a piece full of fulsome praise for Tony Abbott, something that I would not have expected at all a few years a go:

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I may be wrong but to my mind this piece is staking out that much coveted “middle ground” in Australian political reporting and it probably represents the best chance that Fairfax has to remain a viable media player in the game of Politics reporting. The departure of a number of open;y Leftist writers and reporters must bea factor here and it can only improve the standards of the Fairfax Media to follow the clear change of mood in the Australian Polity rather than continuing the braying chorus of the Uber-left that has become so dull and annoying, especially in the light of the Labor’s terminal death spiral under Rudd and Gillard.

With its consistent disdain for the extreme left its no surprise that the Oz should be taking some deligt at the embarrassment of the NSW Greens over their on again of again flirtation with our own infamous Holocaust denier Fredrick Toben.

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Clearly they are less than keen to have this infamous Anti-Semite sharing the public stage with them because it would be proof (as if something so self evident needs proving) that the loopy Greens support for the Palestinians is based upon the clear anti-Semitism of the far left. I can only dream of the shivers of schadenfreude had Toben managed to stand on the deck of that cruise boat. As Maxwell Smart would have said “missed it by that much” You can’t stop a feller dreaming now can you?
I absolutely enjoyed the Guardian’s top story for today about Asylum seekers which gives us just the smallest hint that an Abbott government might actually repudiate or attempt to reform the UN refugee convention.

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The best thing would of course be to repudiate the outdated and no longer appropriate convention with a domestic law that no longer relies upon the entirely subjective “fear of persecution” and replace it with a requirement that mendicants show that they have actually been persecuted and make the way that we deal with the illegal immigrants that come here under the Asylum seeker flag of convenience entirely subject to the decisions of our parliament rather than the cohort of idiotic far left lawyers who populate the  refugee advocacy groups. Thus it would be far easier to deport  failed claimants and far quicker to decide the legitimacy of the thousands of mendicants who have taken advantage of Rudd and Gillard’s  naive idiocy in “fixing” a border regime that was not at all broken.

Finally the news today that Microsoft will heed the wishes of gamers that we should be able to but sell and trade the games we buy for their new Xbox one is most welcome.

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Of course if I was going to buy a next gen console I tend to think that I would stick to Sony and go for the PS4 (the power of brand loyalty at work :roll:    ) however I see this as a very good example of consumers making their voices heard and ensuring that we are not just herded into a system that makes us into corporate milch cows for the hard ware producers. It also suggests to me that those who see Microsoft as an unstoppable juggernaut are, well, exaggerating.

So there you have a diverse range of issues to consider on this (nearly) mid winter’s day. Me? well after breakfast I have to interrogate the daily driver’s ECU, finish hooking up the heater on my sports car, sand and paint a wall repair here at Chez Hall and then there are a million other things on my list…
Cheers Comrades

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23 Comments

  1. Ray Dixon says:

    Too many issues to talk about in one comment, Iain, but I’ll just point out what it says at the foot of The Age article you referred to:

    Nicolle Flint is a PhD student at Flinders University and an Age columnist. She has previously worked as an adviser to Liberal leaders and is a member of the Liberal Party.

    The Age often publishes such biased opinions, Iain – in the interest of fairness, I guess.

  2. Iain Hall says:

    Ray

    The Age often always publishes such biased opinions (but not usually from the right)

    Fixed it for you ;)

    While I agree that the Age does on occasion publish pieces that are critical of the government by Coalition supporters I have never seen pieces that are as fulsome in their praise of Tony Abbott in all of the time that he has been Leader of the opposition.

    You see I think that they are trying to reposition themselves closer to the centre now that the Guardian (Australian edition) has laid claim to the far left demographic here and if you think about it from a business outlook it makes perfect sense to do this.

    (Oh and I have emailed you a link to something interesting)

  3. Ray Dixon says:

    I don’t agree, Iain. I think that article was just like a ‘right of reply’ for an obvious Liberal lackey.

    And I received your email re ‘the dirty disease’. Couldn’t have happened to a ‘dirtier’ person.

  4. Richard Ryan says:

    “the dirty disease” Is she a virgin?

  5. Simon says:

    Microsoft 360 with Kinetic was a major advancement in home entertainment. It’s a shame then that a company that can come up with such a revolutionary input device for interactivity is so seemingly obsessed with trying to suck every last dollar they can from the consumer. The same thing happened over a decade ago when Microsoft took a lead on digital copy write protection with the idea that future PCs have a special chip codenamed “Palladium”, that would try and limit the growing numbers of people converting their CDs to MP3s. This also failed to gain public support.

    I can’t see anything wrong with the current market system of a new game coming out initially with a premium price tag, and after a few months as some of the games purchased are resold (often back to a retailer like JB Hi-Fi acting like a used car dealership) this brings down the price of a new copy of the same game. Of course there is a loss of potential income for the game’s publishers – but how many people who bought new copies at the reduced price, or who bought second hand copies, would have bothered to even buy if the price tag had stayed at the inflated $100?

  6. GD says:

    Iain, I agree with with your troika, your triad, but I cannot agree with your quadrille.

    I’m not a gamer.

    Regardless, in order to annoy Ray Dixon, great post Iain.

    And that’s all I’ll say.

    Was that good for you, Ray?

  7. Iain Hall says:

    Thanks for your 75% affirmation GD :)

    Now can I try to get that up to 100%?

    Just consider what a good thing it is that a corporate giant Like Microsoft is actually responsive to what its market base wants in its new product, you don’t even have to be a gamer to give the last quarter a tick for that ;)

  8. Ray Dixon says:

    You really shouldn’t drink & post, GD.

  9. holmesr64 says:

    Iain, the difference between The Age and the Herald Sun is that the former subtitles certain pieces with “Opinion” or “Comment” whereas the latter doesn’t. (I won’t mention The Australia because I rarely see it.) So you know where you stand, you know (whtever direction it takes) it is partisan and there is no confusion with objective Truth (not that there is any such thing) and subjective Opinion (which arguably is everything, but there’s pig-ignorant belief and there’s evidence-based opinion).

    When I saw they piece I was taken aback, because even though it is clearly marked Opinion it should be marked Advertisement. You see rightists (I’ll use that, because even though you and others strangely don’t, it seems an obvious counterpoint to ‘leftists’) are usually not very good at crafting text in a considered, persuasive fashion, and Ms. Flint is no exception- in fact, she’s probably being groomed for preselection as we speak.

    I don’t know why they chose to publish it. Possibly due to the Guardian Aus- which is so great I think it’s the first online paper I’ll happily pay for- but more likely a clumsy rebalancing act to keep more of its rightist readers. Whatever- for mine its is so conservative already I don’t know why it bothers to pretend, much like the Labor Party.

  10. holmesr64 says:

    In reference to Fredrick Toben- it couldn’t be that the Greens in quesion simply did not know who Fredrick Toben was, and what his extremist views were, could it? I mean, let’s start a list: Pauline Hanson, Mark Latham, Peter Slipper, Christopher Monckton… all the parties have had their fruitcake members and hangers-on haven’t they.

  11. holmesr64 says:

    Not sure what you mean by “…the Asylum seeker flag of convenience entirely subject to the decisions of our parliament rather than the cohort of idiotic far left lawyers who populate the refugee advocacy groups….”
    The lawyers you speak of don’t make decisions on asylum seeker’s claims anymore than defending lawyers in criminal courts make decisions on the guilt or innocence of their clients.
    Also, you forgot the first part of the article you linked to:
    “The report, from a committee chaired by Labor’s former Speaker Harry Jenkins, expresses strong concerns about the human rights of asylum seekers sent for offshore processing on Nauru and Manus Island in Papua New Guinea, and about those released into likely “destitution” in the Australian community on bridging visas without work rights. It comes as the Coalition continues its attack over the continuing boat arrivals and as the government seeks to force the Coalition to explain how it will make good on its promise to “stop the boats” within the first term of a Tony Abbott-led government.”
    You seem to be advocating a tougher approach to the boat arrivals- because the Opposition is light on detail other than ‘we will stop the boats’, do you have any ideas as to how the Opposition plans to do more than pretty much torture the asylum seekers? And you might also have some detail on how they will actually, in reality, stop the boats from coming?

  12. holmesr64 says:

    Last one- for now, and I don’t know where else to put it: why do you have two women kissing on your heading? Are you a lesbian? If so that’s cool- just wondering.

  13. Iain Hall says:

    Holmes

    Last one- for now, and I don’t know where else to put it: why do you have two women kissing on your heading? Are you a lesbian? If so that’s cool- just wondering.

    Its my practice to change the header image everyday and to day its the two Kissing Women I just like the picture, and no I;m not a lesbian, I’m a straight bloke with a well developed sense of self deprecating irony

  14. Iain Hall says:

    Holmes

    Not sure what you mean by “…the Asylum seeker flag of convenience entirely subject to the decisions of our parliament rather than the cohort of idiotic far left lawyers who populate the refugee advocacy groups….”
    The lawyers you speak of don’t make decisions on asylum seeker’s claims anymore than defending lawyers in criminal courts make decisions on the guilt or innocence of their clients.

    I concede the semantic point I could have been a bit clearer but what I am arguing is that repudiating the UN convention will remove the pernicious influence its outdated and now twisted notions from the immigration decision making process

    Also, you forgot the first part of the article you linked to:
    “The report, from a committee chaired by Labor’s former Speaker Harry Jenkins, expresses strong concerns about the human rights of asylum seekers sent for offshore processing on Nauru and Manus Island in Papua New Guinea, and about those released into likely “destitution” in the Australian community on bridging visas without work rights. It comes as the Coalition continues its attack over the continuing boat arrivals and as the government seeks to force the Coalition to explain how it will make good on its promise to “stop the boats” within the first term of a Tony Abbott-led government.”

    The problem is of course that as soon as you give these people any right to residency or work then that is a positive incentive for other economic migrants to use the same methodology to get into this country.

    You seem to be advocating a tougher approach to the boat arrivals- because the Opposition is light on detail other than ‘we will stop the boats’, do you have any ideas as to how the Opposition plans to do more than pretty much torture the asylum seekers? And you might also have some detail on how they will actually, in reality, stop the boats from coming?

    In its centuries of isolation Japan used to behead anyone who landed on their shores Of course that would be unthinkable today and I’m only mentioning to point out that protecting the integrity of a country’s borders is nothing new. Personally I would be very happy to see mass deportations of failed claimants. Automatic denial of any claim from an individual who has destroyed their documents more than anything else no irregular arrival should EVER get permanent residency.

  15. Iain Hall says:

    Holmes

    In reference to Fredrick Toben- it couldn’t be that the Greens in question simply did not know who Fredrick Toben was, and what his extremist views were, could it? I mean, let’s start a list: Pauline Hanson, Mark Latham, Peter Slipper, Christopher Monckton… all the parties have had their fruitcake members and hangers-on haven’t they.

    Maybe so However I doubt that given the propensity of the Greens to anti-Semitism I would have been surprised if they did not know. That said holocaust deniers are generally considered somewhat worse than all of your counter examples by several orders of magnitude. However I make no apology for enjoying the Greens’ “duck on a hotplate dance” once the implications of their invitation became very clear.

  16. holmesr64 says:

    Oh, well in that case is it serving some sexual gratification for your mostly male followers.

  17. holmesr64 says:

    So, if you were say Afghani, and you happened to be born into a family and ethnic group that was reviled and oppressed by the ruling elite in Afghanistan which flows down to your very neighbourhood, and you grew up in awful circumtances because your rights and ability to better yourself were limited by your own government, and you were in a constant of fear that you and/or your family members would be murdered by your own neighbours for merely saying the wrong thing- what would YOU do? Feel free to insert Somalia, Iraq, Iran, Sri Lanka, Sudan or several other countries in place of Afghanistan.
    Personally, I think anyone who gets from any of those countries to Australia is a hero, but anyway…
    And I assume your definition of ‘failed claimants’ is post your fantasy future point in time when a future Australian Government decides to ditch the relevant UN Convention and creates some kind of unbelievably impossible criteria. Like an English test! Yes- that’s a great idea! Oh wait- some of them are pretty smart aren’t they. Hmm- oh well, you’ll have to think of something really hard. In the meantime keep lighting the bonfires around the coast and we’ll meet somewhere around the other side- in about 300 years.

    See now you got me sarcastic! I can’t help it- happens every time I come across a deluded xenophobe yobbo with a computer.

  18. holmesr64 says:

    Go ahead, enjoy your little reveal- though you could have made just as much out of it by calling them hopeless amateurs for not knowing who the clown was.
    As it is, you just reveal yourself to be a kooky extreme-right conspriacist who actually believes the the Greens are a front for a group who wants to form a WORLD GOVERNMENT and who has links with NAZISM and EUGENICS. Don’t be foolish.

  19. Iain Hall says:

    Holmes

    Oh, well in that case is it serving some sexual gratification for your mostly male followers.

    So, if you were say Afghani, and you happened to be born into a family and ethnic group that was reviled and oppressed by the ruling elite in Afghanistan which flows down to your very neighbourhood, and you grew up in awful circumstances because your rights and ability to better yourself were limited by your own government, and you were in a constant of fear that you and/or your family members would be murdered by your own neighbours for merely saying the wrong thing- what would YOU do? Feel free to insert Somalia, Iraq, Iran, Sri Lanka, Sudan or several other countries in place of Afghanistan.

    if that was what I had grown up then naturally I would cut my coat according to my cloth just a everyone else does. However no matter how bad the situation is any of the third countries you cite why does that oblige Australia to provide immigration opportunities to any of them?

    Personally, I think anyone who gets from any of those countries to Australia is a hero, but anyway…
    And I assume your definition of ‘failed claimants’ is post your fantasy future point in time when a future Australian Government decides to ditch the relevant UN Convention and creates some kind of unbelievably impossible criteria.

    No there is no need to have ridiculous criteria all that is necessary is that those who fail the current criteria t be promptly deported. further I think that your notion of heroism is bizarre of you think that running away is anything other than cowardly

    Like an English test! Yes- that’s a great idea! Oh wait- some of them are pretty smart aren’t they. Hmm- oh well, you’ll have to think of something really hard. In the meantime keep lighting the bonfires around the coast and we’ll meet somewhere around the other side- in about 300 years.

    Are you on drugs? Because this makes no sense

    See now you got me sarcastic! I can’t help it- happens every time I come across a deluded xenophobe yobbo with a computer.

    Yawn… read my back catalogue before you make such sweeping claim

  20. Iain Hall says:

    Holmes

    Go ahead, enjoy your little reveal- though you could have made just as much out of it by calling them hopeless amateurs for not knowing who the clown was.

    You get your political Jollies your way and I’ll get mine as I please.

    As it is, you just reveal yourself to be a kooky extreme-right conspriacist who actually believes the the Greens are a front for a group who wants to form a WORLD GOVERNMENT and who has links with NAZISM and EUGENICS. Don’t be foolish.

    Nah I don’t do conspiracy theories but I do call a spade a spade when it comes to the Loopy Greens

  21. holmesr64 says:

    Iain, I’ve seen your moniker around, I know your style- Bolt without a column. Don’t worry I was just having fun with you; I like pointing out inconvenient facts to racists, and you have already concede several points so I’ll give you that. Seeya!

  22. Iain Hall says:

    Nothing that you can say worries me Holmes as for your suggestion that I am a racist well I have heard far worse spurious claims made about me by deluded minions of the Left.
    You don’t live in Geelong by any chance do you?

  23. holmesr64 says:

    I’m not trying to worry you Iain- just playing with you. Of course you don’t believe you’re racist- who would admit to that? But if I had more time to waste I could compile a long list of examples.
    But for all your verbosity, you’re just one in a long line of lightweights, too lazy to go the hard road and think about real solutions to real problems. Good luck to you.
    No I don’t live in Geelong.

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