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Labor dumped by voters in the wake of the failed coup

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Labor’s dumping won’t be as pretty as this young woman

The News-poll this morning is  even worse for Labor than even I expected:

 

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JULIA Gillard’s personal standing has crashed to a 19-month low and Tony Abbott is clearly back in front as the nation’s preferred prime minister after Labor’s “appalling” two weeks of political and policy failure.

According to the latest Newspoll survey, Labor’s primary vote has slumped five points to a disastrous 30 per cent after a fortnight that ended with the aborted leadership spill and mass cabinet resignations, with one in two voters now siding with the Coalition.

The collapse in the Labor vote has completely wiped out the party’s recovery in the second half of last year and has entrenched the prospect of a landslide vote against the government in the election scheduled for September 14.

After taking into account preference flows, federal Labor’s support is eight percentage points below its level at the 2010 election, at 42 per cent – a swing that if replicated in September would remove about 30 Labor MPs, including at least five ministers.

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This  can only be described as a electoral Tsunami and Ray’s 25% primary vote seems possible now . just imagine what it will be in September.

Cheers Comrade

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31 Comments

  1. Brian says:

    If only Julia looked like the girl in the bikini, Iain. Then she’d be able to manage a sharp rise in the poles, err, poles.

  2. Ray Dixon says:

    Gillard is clearly blaming Rudd for the fall in hers and the government’s ratings. Everyone’s fault but hers, eh? She should have done what Rudd did in 2010 and NOT recontested the position. It’s what the voters wanted. It’s what they still want.

  3. Iain Hall says:

    Sadly Ray its all to common for the Gillard Glee Club to blame ANYONE except Gillard herself

  4. Ray Dixon says:

    Yeah, and on the same subject, here’s the phone call Simon Crean ‘forgot’ to make:


    “Hi Kevin, I’m going to make an announcement that I’m calling on the PM to call a spill. I’ll be wanting you to nominate and I’ll support you, as long as I’m Deputy. What do you think?”

    It was rather odd that he didn’t talk to Rudd first, wasn’t it?

  5. Iain Hall says:

    Especially in the light of his more recent bucketing of Rudd

  6. Brian says:

    I suspect that Crean had made up his mind to retire at the next election, so like the poor old defeated Taliban suicide bomber he tried to give his arch enemy the kiss of death before going out with a bang. Only Rudd is not so keen on Judas kisses.

  7. GD says:

    Crean stated on Jon Faine’s ABC program, the morning after the debacle, that he will be contesting the next election.

  8. Ray Dixon says:

    We’ll see if he stays ‘after the slaughter’, GD. He’s got to win his seat first.

  9. GD says:

    Of course, Ray. I was merely pointing out to Brian that he was wrong once again. :)

    Mind you, I don’t care if he stays or not. All this navel gazing is neither here nor there. Do you examine every item of your garbage before you drag the wheelie bin to the street?

    I am more concerned now about how Abbott is tracking. And, apart from the polls, I’m not impressed, but more on that later.

  10. Ray Dixon says:

    Oh good, GD is going to turn his attention to Abbott. Don’t hold back now – I’m sure you can defame him too.

  11. GD says:

    Well, no Ray, or at least not like you and your ‘love affair’ with Sophie Mirabella.

  12. Ray Dixon says:

    I’ve written plenty about Sophie on my blog but believe me, if I defamed her (like you’ve defamed Gillard), she’d have no hesitation in suing me. I’m in her electorate and I know for fact her staffers monitor what’s said about her.

  13. GD says:

    If I’ve defamed Gillard, add me to the list with Michael Smith, Andrew Bolt, Tim Blair, Larry Pickering et al.

  14. GD says:

    And btw, Iain, once again you prove yourself master of the animated gif.

  15. Ray Dixon says:

    You have defamed her but don’t worry, the only likely impact is on your credibility, GD.

  16. GD says:

    So if I haven’t defamed her, why did you say it in the first place? Anyway, it’s past lunchtime in my neck of the woods. I’m off to the local Chinese restaurant to enjoy a chilli beef and fried rice with a bottle of crisp chablis.

    I’ll see you back here for the cocktail hour. :)

  17. Ray Dixon says:

    Comprehension not your strongest suit, eh, GD? Where did I say you haven’t defamed her? You certainly have and my comment suggesting she’s unlikely to bother suing you does not mean I think otherwise.

  18. Brian says:

    Of course, Ray. I was merely pointing out to Brian that he was wrong once again.

    When someone uses the phrase “I suspect” then it means they are not sure, “GD”. It doesn’t mean they are asserting something as fact, like you have done about Gillard “misappropriating moneys”.

  19. Iain Hall says:

    Ray someone has to have a reputation in good order before they can be defamed, please expalin how one could make such a claim about Gillard.

  20. Brian says:

    Iain, there is a far cry between accusing someone of political incompetence (most of which is a matter of opinion anyway) and criminal misconduct.

  21. Iain Hall says:

    Maybe so Brian but the likelyhood of a writ?

    Given we are talking about Gillard in the here and now I would say less than zero.

  22. Ray Dixon says:

    someone has to have a reputation in good order before they can be defamed

    That’s not right, Iain. Gillard may have a “reputation” in politics for broken promises or being ‘loose with the truth’ but that does not mean it’s open season on her for anything else. And she has no proven reputation for dishonest dealings as a solicitor whatsoever, only innuendo. GD has taken that very same innuendo and turned it into a defamatory allegation that she comitted a criminal act. If GD wasn’t such small fry, and if that comment had been made by someone more high profile, she’d sue and rightly so. That doesn’t excuse GD for his libellous comment and … as I said … until he withdraws it he has no credibility whatsoever.

  23. Craigy says:

    It is interesting that the ‘slaughter’ of the ALP in WA didn’t turn out that way in the end…..Could very well be the same come September given Tony Abbott has been hiding and avoiding answering questions about policy (and his black hole), you know, the stuff that actually means something!

    I’ll stick by my view that, internal issues aside, the ALP/Greens Government has in fact been a good one. The biggest problem has been PR, they aint good at it. If they can sell the good economy and Tony stuffs up – as is likely, then it will be close come September.

    The look back at the mess the LNP made, by getting us into the stuff up in Iraq and Afghanistan, is in the media again, people don’t forget that easy.

    On top of the stuff ups and lack of reform last time we had a conservative government, we have the climate change issue bubbling away, with recent concerns from industry and defense adding to the pressure on Abbotts silly scheme – that will cost us a bucket and do nothing…..The LNP will be in real trouble with that issue as time goes on.

    Given the failed predictions from the wingnuts and others at this blog, perhaps you should give some credit to my views, given I’m yet to predict a lot of old bollocks like you lot (not you Brian)…..

  24. Craigy says:

    This letter from today’s Age makes my point well…
    ———————————————————————————————-
    To all those screaming for an early election to stop the ”damage” being caused by this government, I suggest a simple exercise. Rate in order of importance the damage done to you or someone close to you by the following achievements – stable economy, increase in age pension payments, paid parental leave, national fast broadband rollout, the education revolution, plain cigarette packaging, a price on carbon and the disability insurance scheme – to name a few. Politics is about policy. For those wishing to vote in a popularity contest, there is always the Logies.

    Brigitte Wright,

    Blackburn South

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/letters/theres-no-shortage-of-abandoned-children-20130325-2gq3x.html#ixzz2OdIZkGw2

  25. Brian says:

    Maybe so Brian but the likelyhood of a writ?

    Next to zero.

    If a News Ltd mouthpiece like Bolt came out in print and said Gillard was guilty of fraud, embezzlement or conspiracy, she’d be on the phone faster than you could blink. But I think “GD” is safe. There is no point whatsoever suing someone who nobody listens to, nor has anything you want.

  26. Brian says:

    Craigy,

    Yes, that letter highlights the ALP government’s fundamental problem. The majority of Australians are NOT worse off than they were in 2007, yet the majority of Australians seem to believe that they are – and they blame for the government for this non-existent decline in their standard of living. Both Iain and “GD” have several times been asked how they are personally worse off after six years of Rudd and Gillard; on each occasion they have given vague, general answers that do not address the question.

  27. Iain Hall says:

    Craigy

    It is interesting that the ‘slaughter’ of the ALP in WA didn’t turn out that way in the end…..Could very well be the same come September given Tony Abbott has been hiding and avoiding answering questions about policy (and his black hole), you know, the stuff that actually means something!

    The difference is that the ALP in WA was not lead by Julia Gillard but when it comes to questions of “Policy’ we both know that this election will not be fought on “opposition policies” it will be fought about Gillard’s lack of competence and bad Judgement calls.

    I’ll stick by my view that, internal issues aside, the ALP/Greens Government has in fact been a good one. The biggest problem has been PR, they aint good at it. If they can sell the good economy and Tony stuffs up – as is likely, then it will be close come September.

    You may be willing to very lightly dismiss “internal issues” but for teh voters it is utterly indicative of just why Labor are unfit to govern.

    The look back at the mess the LNP made, by getting us into the stuff up in Iraq and Afghanistan, is in the media again, people don’t forget that easy.

    Those wars are done and dusted and good bad or indifferent most people just don’t care any more.

    On top of the stuff ups and lack of reform last time we had a conservative government, we have the climate change issue bubbling away, with recent concerns from industry and defense adding to the pressure on Abbotts silly scheme – that will cost us a bucket and do nothing…..The LNP will be in real trouble with that issue as time goes on.

    There you go again thinking that we need to eternally “reform” everything all of the time. As for climate change its old hat and while I agree that the Coalition scheme is unnecessary and a waste of money I caution you to take claims made by Warminista rent seekers with a very large grain of salt.Maybe they will after teh election decide to drop the entire “addressing climate change” nonsense. I for one hope so.

    Given the failed predictions from the wingnuts and others at this blog, perhaps you should give some credit to my views, given I’m yet to predict a lot of old bollocks like you lot (not you Brian)…..

    Craigy I always enjoy reading your views even though I absolutely disagree with many of them.

  28. Ray Dixon says:

    The majority of Australians are NOT worse off than they were in 2007, yet the majority of Australians seem to believe that they are – and they blame for the government for this non-existent decline in their standard of living

    I agree we’re not worse off under Labor and in fact we’re relatively better off, considering what could have been (and would have been under the coalition) with the GFC. I was the one who pointed that out to GD & Iain last week … and they both failed miserably in answering it.

    That said, the “worse off” part comes in terms of our leadership and trust in the government led by Julia Gillard. It’s about Gillard – she comes across as entirely self interested and lacking real compassion and vision. The consistent opinion polls point clearly to the obvious end she is driving her party towards – oblivion at the polls.

    A less self-interested and more party-oriented leader would have seen this and stepped down last week and given hope to the party and the people alike that the country was in good hands. Her failure to do so marks her as nothing more than the first ever female PM. She could have been that and a lot more – a graceful female PM who knew when her time was up and acted for the greater good.

    She failed the test and, instead, will go down in history as a freakin’ control freak and narcissistic machiavellian of the highest order.

  29. Iain Hall says:

    Ray

    That said, the “worse off” part comes in terms of our leadership and trust in the government led by Julia Gillard. It’s about Gillard – she comes across as entirely self interested and lacking real compassion and vision. The consistent opinion polls point clearly to the obvious end she is driving her party towards – oblivion at the polls.

    This is precisely what I have been saying every time that you or Brian have run the “worse off” argument about the Labor government, glad you see that its not all about the state of our hip pocket nerves.

  30. Ray Dixon says:

    What are you still doing up at this hour, Iain?

    Anyway, yes, I agree we’re “worse off” with a leader like Gillard because people don’t trust her. But that doesn’t mean we’d be better off with Abbott. I think we’re in a state of flux at the moment and we need to see what pans out over the next month or two before we jump to conclusions. There might be more twists to come but if not, and if Gillard takes the ALP to the election, well …. we both know what will happen.

  31. Iain Hall says:

    I was up because of my insomnia and as I have another PC hooked up to the bedroom TV for that eventuality.

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