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Iain Hall:

Ah what joy the latte Sippers of the world bring to this aging conservative especially as they bend over backwards to prove with this post that they are absolutely enmeshed in rather puerile group-think. In any event I invite my dear readers to check out this post and be amazed at how 37 (at the time it came to my attention ) of them cut and pasting the same paragraph.
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This sort of political posturing is rather futile but also rather sadly amusing,
Cheers Comrades

Originally posted on Say No to Tony:

“I hereby pledge to do my utmost in 2013 and beyond to ensure that Tony Abbott never becomes the Prime Minister of Australia.

I will engage on the issues, on matters of character and on the facts that demonstrate that Tony Abbott is unsuitable to be Prime Minister of Australia.  I know that any government lead by Tony Abbott, or any government that follows his lead, would inflict deep and lasting damage to the fabric of Australia that we trust and depend upon.  I will expend any and all energies required to ensure Tony Abbott and his values are kept from The Lodge and the government benches in Parliament.”

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29 Comments

  1. Tel says:

    The final and only strategy of the ALP is to focus a totally negative campaign against one man. They have nothing left.

    Personally, so long as the ALP loses, I don’t care who beats them. I expect events in the USA to overshadow even the ALP negative campaign.

  2. Brian says:

    The final and only strategy of the ALP is to focus a totally negative campaign against one man. They have nothing left.

    Are you serious, Tel? For the last three years we have put up with “Juliar”, “Ditch the Witch”, chaff bags, dead fathers, Pickering dildo cartoons and a pointless dredging of events that happened in the 90s. I can’t remember any party leader being singled out like Gillard has by your side of politics.

    You are right about events in the US though, it’s not looking good.

  3. GD says:

    Are you serious, Brian? Howard was on the receiving end of worse vitriol and slander than Joolia.

  4. Ray Dixon says:

    Howard was on the receiving end of worse vitriol and slander than Joolia

    Bullshit. Give some examples, GD. What exactly did Howard cop?

  5. Brian says:

    Yes, let’s hear them GD.

  6. GD says:

    Oh ye of selective short term memory, there’s a veritable grab-bag of public examples of vivious, vindictive and hateful vitriol aimed at John Howard.

    Take a look at this leftie blogger’s examples. She agrees with me.

    She posts some really tasteful pics:

    This is rather rude.

    George W’s dog

    and this one from the National Library of Australia:

    It’s a delightful photo of a burning ‘John Howard’ effigy at a feminist protest rally in Sydney. As I said, delightful.

    Fairfax journo Peter Hartcher also agrees with me.

    He quotes Julie Bishop:

    “From 2001 to 2004 was the worst I’ve experienced,” says Bishop. “From around the time of the Tampa and children overboard and the Iraq war John Howard was called a war criminal – I used to read it all the time. The abuse was vindictive and personal.”

    He also recalls:

    Other abuse of Howard included Mark Latham’s line that he was an “arselicker” leading “a conga line of suckholes”. A book titled John Howard’s Little Book of Truth was published for the sole purpose of calling him a liar. A Darwin hip-hop group, Toekeo, played a song titled John Howard is a Filthy Slut.

    But wait, there’s more:

    lying runt
    war criminal
    this one’s got the lot

  7. GD says:

    I particularly liked and respected Howard’s parting comment on leaving Parliament.

    I almost got insulted in there.

    Contrast that to Joolia’s shrill ‘misogynist’ rant and her gender victimhood.

    Compare the pair: one is a gentleman and statesman, the other a screaming virago better suited to attending meetings of the Socialist Alliance than attempting to lead Australia.

    None of the criticisms of Joolia’s prime ministership, or lack thereof, have been misogynistic or gender based. They have all been performance based. She is a failed prime minister, (mis)leading the worst government Australia has had in 112 years.

    Going further back, Keating lambasted Howard on an almost daily basis.

    the leader of the opposition…is like a dessicated coconut

    The brain-damaged leader of the opposition.

    What we have got is a dead carcass, swinging in the breeze, but nobody will cut it down to replace him.

    I am not like the leader of the opposition. I did not slither out of the cabinet room like a mangy maggot.

    But I will never get to the stage of wanting to lead the nation standing in front of the mirror each morning clipping the eyebrows here and clipping the eyebrows there with Janette and the kids: It’s like ‘Spot the eyebrows’.

    Fringe dweller, ABC acolyte, Mungo MacCullum has described John Howard as an “unflushable turd [who] set out on a leisurely victory circuit of the toilet bowl?”

    For an even more depressing list of abuses Howard endured, with good grace, read this. Mark Latham shows he is more than worthy to join the conga line of mud-slingers.

    And John Howard’s response, on leaving Parliament

    I almost got insulted in there.

  8. Ray Dixon says:

    Okay GD, you score a pass for that response. For effort and research, if nothing else. Bet you enjoyed that!

    Btw:

    “From 2001 to 2004 was the worst I’ve experienced,” says Bishop. “From around the time of the Tampa and children overboard and the Iraq war John Howard was called a war criminal … ”

    … and a liar. That’s because he sent us into Iraq to murder people, GD. Based on a lie.

  9. Iain Hall says:

    Ray

    … and a liar. That’s because he sent us into Iraq to murder people, GD. Based on a lie.

    The fact is prior to the second Iraq war everyone, including Howard, believed that Saddam had more capabilities than was subsequently found to be the case, And Saddam was very keen, for his own domestic reasons to suggest that he had WMD capabilities. So if we went to war ” based on a lie” the lie was not told by Howard

  10. Ray Dixon says:

    everyone, including Howard, believed that Saddam had more capabilities than was subsequently found to be the case

    Sorry, Iain, but that’s another lie. The WMD theory was straight out bullshit & propaganda and was exposed as such well before the decision to invade. Only blind-faith supporters of Bush & Howard saw it otherwise. And Howard is equally liable for perpetuating that lie.

  11. Iain Hall says:

    Ray

    while the theory that the WMDS were overstated was out there before the war until the fall of Saddam no one was sure.

  12. Ray Dixon says:

    I was. So was anyone who looked at it logically.

  13. Peter Dippl says:

    Ray. The only wankers that were sure Saddam had no WMDs were those opposing the invasion and they based that not on logic but wishful thinking, that appeared on the surface to be right. Ask the Kurds he gassed with mustard gas and CX ,whether they believe ? There is still serious intelligence that Syria took possession of some WMD material from Saddam and there certainly was plenty of poison gas delivery capability floating around all those criminal States that WAS found and destroyed by the invading troops. Howard was a war criminal only in the minds of the deluded loony left !!!!! The criminals now in charge of Canberra are far more culpable in a war crimes sense for denying our armed forces the funding to do their assigned and UN treaty obligated duty so they can fund their own pet wasteful and criminal overspending. That my friend is a war crime !!!

  14. Ray Dixon says:

    Oh for God’s sake, “Dippl”, that’s just rubbish. Saddam had no weapons capable of causing a problem to the rest of the world. He barely even had them in Gulf War #1 (in 1991) – just a few misaimed scud missiles. That’s about the extent of it. The whole WMD excuse was just that – an excuse to invade Iraq for whatever reason. Oil reserves perhaps? Or maybe to stop the illegal transport of oil by road to Europe (which he was doing). It was an invasion. It was an illegal invasion. It was a disgusting and unnecessary war that cost millions of lives. Stop altering history.

  15. Brian says:

    That’s right. There was good reason for the 1991 Gulf War but the second one was based on artifice and a constructed premise. Whatever capacity Saddam had for the production of chemical and biological weapons in 1991 had evaporated by 2003. Even the likes of Cheney and Alexander Downer have since admitted that the war was less about the removal of Saddam than it was securing Iraqi oil reserves.

  16. Peter Dippl says:

    Nobody accused him of threatening the rest of the world !!! Talk about changing history. He was a danger to the region and the destabilisation that created. The world economy is no joke despite what the looney left would like us to believe even as they trash it themselves . Talk about the death of millions is pretty lame from anybody that supports the re incarnation of the old communist agenda by the New Fabian elite ( don’t mention the word “communist” supporters. ) Spin it however you want “Dixon” Saddam Hussein was a danger to his people and anybody else in the region and the world. You say millions died I say many more millions would have died had he not been removed !!!!

  17. Tel says:

    Last I checked, Larry Pickering is not and has never been Liberal Party policy. I’m not a great fan, nor have I kept up with him over the years but I still remember him drawing Alan Bond with a giant cock flopped out and wings on the end, right after the America’s Cup victory. Ray, did you bitch and moan back then, because of how sexist it all was, or did you have a laugh?

    Bashing Tony Abbott, as far as I can tell, is official ALP policy, and there’s the difference.

  18. Peter Dippl says:

    One more thing “comrade mates” all this bullshit about the Illegal invasion of Iraq and the prosecution of an illegal war totally ignore the LEGAL mandate given by UN resolution 1441 . Funny how the loonies never bother tp trot that out seeing the UN is their baby in all other things.

  19. Brian says:

    Yes Peter, Saddam was in breach of UN resolution 1441. But it is up to the UN Security Council to decide how breaches of its own resolutions should be dealt with – not Bush, Blair and Howard. If a declaration of war had been floated at the Security Council it would have been vetoed by France, Russia and possibly China.

    My personal view, based on some reading, is that Saddam had some but not many WMD and a dwindling capacity to manufacture more. But since his internal rule was relatively fragile and hinged on bluff and bravado, he had to maintain a level of defiance to both the UN and US. That Saddam was a murderous tyrant, a liar and crook is not in doubt, but in 2003 he was nowhere near as strong or as dangerous as is often tendered.

    Talk about the death of millions is pretty lame from anybody that supports the re incarnation of the old communist agenda by the New Fabian elite ( don’t mention the word “communist” supporters. )

    If you genuinely believe that Australia today is run by communists, then you’re either dishonest or insane. Malcolm Fraser’s government in 1981 was more left wing than the current mob.

  20. Brian says:

    I still remember him drawing Alan Bond with a giant cock flopped out and wings on the end, right after the America’s Cup victory. Ray, did you bitch and moan back then, because of how sexist it all was, or did you have a laugh?

    In fairness to Ray, it was me who brought Pickering up. I’ve always thought him to be a liar, a crook and a crackpot. His cartoons are nothing more than celebrities and politicians with their genitals out, the kind of stuff you expect from 14 year old schoolboys. If you find that stuff funny, you’re as low rent as he is.

    Bashing Tony Abbott, as far as I can tell, is official ALP policy, and there’s the difference.

    But there’s no difference at all. We’ve had Julie Bishop running around interviewing former union bosses and entire days of question time spent trying on dredging up stuff about Gillard from the 90s. Just mud slinging, pure and simple. If you think the other side is the only one doing it, perhaps you need to take off your Lib glasses.

  21. Ray Dixon says:

    He was a danger to the region and the destabilisation that created.

    Please explain how Saddam Hussein & Iraq were a danger to the region in 2003 after he had invaded Kuwait in 1991 only to get his balls kicked in and retreat. Just who the hell was he a danger to after that? Answer: no one but his own people, who would have eventually overthrown him … with far less loss of life.

    As for the rest of your looney rant, it doesn”t make any sense. WTF is communisim in 2012? I certainly don’t support that type of regime.

    Tel, you never cease to amaze me with your out of left right field comments. I don’t remember Pickering drawing Bond with his cock out. Nor do I freakin’ care about it or, in fact, nor do I care about either of those two. What the hell has that got to do with anything?

    Although I do agree that “bashing Tony Abbott …. is official ALP policy”. And welcome to politics and real life, Tel. Have you ever known politicians not to attack their opposite number? Seriously mate ……………….

  22. Peter W says:

    I made my New Year’s pledge quietly today and will re-affirm it to all 57 staff as we near the 2013 election:

    If a Labor government is re-elected I pledge to shut down my business instantly and sell all assets to the highest bidder. I will then spend the last of my productive years working for cash or for food or for free when possible. I will do my utmost to lend no support to the parasite class.

    My manufacturing business was built from the ashes of Keating’s ‘recession we had to have’ where I lost almost everything in trying to engage in honest productive business. Getting back on my feet has been a long hard slog requiring enormous personal sacrifice yet producing little tangible financial reward thanks to the endless creep of the state. The staff camaraderie has been the real benefit but there is no way I will endure as I did last time the hollowing out of the business until I am left standing alone like the captain of a doomed ship.

    Even with a coalition government, the lesser of two evils, there is no way to be sure we can withstand the financial times ahead. But at least we would have a fighting chance. Those who rubbish Tony Abbott should take the time to gain some economic understanding as he has.

    The Labor ‘magic pudding’ attitude is in lefty parlance “unsustainable”. Australia now stands like a termite infested house; looks good on the outside but is in reality a thin shell held together by a few coats of paint. The western world is headed for what might be later called ‘The Greater Depression’ – only in full colour not the black and white of the 1930s.

    A tough leader with economic understanding might have a chance of saving the furniture.

  23. Ray Dixon says:

    Doom & gloom, eh? Look, rope is cheap. And you only need about 6 ft of it.

  24. GD says:

    Well said, and well felt, Peter W.

    Those who rubbish Tony Abbott should take the time to gain some economic understanding as he has

    The Labor ‘magic pudding’ attitude is in lefty parlance “unsustainable”.

    Australia now stands like a termite infested house; looks good on the outside but is in reality a thin shell held together by a few coats of paint.

  25. Brian says:

    So if the ALP flukes a win in the 2013 election, Peter is going to throw an enormous hissy fit, selling his business, leaving his 57 staff out of work, before working for cash. What an entrepeneur!

    You sound like Chicken Little mate. Take a couple of Bex and have a good lie down. If you’ve got a big bed, perhaps GD can join you.

  26. GD says:

    No Brian, Peter is going to finally say enough is enough. He sounds like he is in his fifties or older. He has employed many people for a long time, ie paying mucho taxes to mucho governments. Perhaps he is allowed to pull the plug.

    Instead, you reckon he should battle on against all odds, against every barrier to success that Jooliar and her cronies throw up; against every cash splash Jooliar and the Goose pour over the non-achievers while penalising the achievers.

    All knowing Brian, and your resident mate Ray “Nero” Dixon, be aware that the day of reckoning will come, unless we halt Labor’s destructive policies.

    It won’t be Greece tomorrow, but it will happen.

    We have to stop the rot.

  27. GD says:

    Yes, let’s hear them GD.

    I gather, Brian, that you enjoyed my parade, my portfolio, of abuses against John Howard. It was pretty good wasn’t it?

    Hitler, nazis, arse-licking, effigy burning….

    It was an eye opener wasn’t it?

    BTW that sense of humour by-pass you seem to have had is working well. The rest of Australia laughed at Pickering’s dicks and dongers cartoons and calendars. Even Joh, initially outraged, acquiesced and refrained from legal action. It was a joke that all of Australia loved.

    I guess you missed it. Damn sense of humour bypass. Lefties are so dour…

  28. Ray Dixon says:

    GD: It won’t be Greece tomorrow, but it will happen. We have to stop the rot.

    You sound like that Kiwi model Rachel Hunter (who married Rod Stewart) in the shampoo ad: “it won’t hippen overnight but it will hippen”. Maybe you should move there too if you think Australia is so f*cked.

  29. Brian says:

    No “GD”, Peter is just grandstanding to make this government sound worse than it is. He sounds hysterical and silly. And of course you are naive enough to buy it.

    If someone really owned a successful business that employs 57 people, then I very much doubt he’d toss it all away because of an election result he didn’t like. He’d deal with it, adjust and adapt if necessary, then get on with life. He wouldn’t go on blogs to throw the toys out of the pram and threaten to end it all.

    Yes, some people found Pickering funny. Some people found Benny Hill funny. Some people find it funny when men dress up as women. Some people find jokes about “boongs” funny too. Then there’s those who like more intelligent humour.

    Ray has a point. If you and Peter don’t like the way Australia is headed, as far as I’m aware the borders are still open. Iraq might be your go, since Bush and Howard have turned it into a thriving democracy.

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