To my mind the fundamental prerequisite for any relationship has to be honesty between the partners and this very sad story shows what can happen when a relationship is based upon a lie.
Murdered: Camilla (right) was shot death by her boyfriend Vladimir F after confessing she had had surgery
A Russian man murdered his girlfriend after discovering she had once been a man.
The killer, identified as Vladimir F by police, shot Camila several times, deliberately targeting the parts of her body altered during a sex change operation.
He had only found out about her previous identity after she turned down his offer of marriage.
The 33-year-old believed she had a secret lover and, in a jealous rage, checked her post.
It was at this point he discovered letters from old friends addressing his girlfriend of two years, who he had met in St Petersburg, as ‘Dear Cyril.’
He confronted her and she confessed she had undergone a sex change operation in Australia, but had not told him.
‘Vladimir grabbed a gun and shot Camilla, targeting the parts of her body that had been altered by the Australian doctors, a police report said.
He then dumped her body in a railway station close to Volgograd in southern Russia he attempted suicide by slitting his wrists.
I in no way condone what “Vladimir F” is alleged to have has done , no one deserves to die for being a teller of lies* but when the lie pertains to something as important as one’s gender it is understandable that the deceived may get very angry and possibly vengeful. This lie has has sadly had fatal consequences.
As I have said before I support the right of any individual to do whatever they please with their bodies even though I thing that “gender reassignment surgery” is something of a fraud in general and a wrong headed approach to gender dysphoria.
It will be interesting to see what the legal outcome is in this case and if Vladimir F is charged or convicted of this killing. Would a jury convict him on a murder charge?
One to watch Comrades
* maybe some habitual liars do deserve torture though…
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maybe some habitual liars do deserve torture though
Now, *who’s* been caught habitually lying on this site… not me, or JM, or DD, hmmm
I also don’t condone what he did, BUT, honesty in a relationship, is one of the major corner stones as to whether it survives or not.
My ex always wanted to know what I did in the RAAF. I couldn’t tell her, and still can’t. It killed any future we had, as it often does ? The old proverb of building on shifting sands comes to mind ?
not necessarily on this site PKD
What’s with PKD and Porkie Pies?
Like a little kid.
Aah, yes – here’s the habitual liar right on cue!
And let me put it this way Shawn – I wouldn’t have to point out your fondness for lying if *you* didn’t ummm…keep lying.
Its up to you at the end of the day mate…
Where I come from you don’t call a man a liar.
Unless you want to back it up.
It is a girly thing.
Or a weapon of some description ?
Shawn, where do you come from?
Well Shawn
After claiming Hansen had stated AGW required montonic growth – and then not backing it up,
Hansen is a Communist – and then not backing it up,
that I had stated CO2 would raise temperatures to unberable levels – and then not backing it up,
to name but only a few incidents of course – and all without even a retraction or correction despite your error being pointed out to you – then I think you’ve earned the title of liar.
Its either that or you’re completely incompetent.
Actually tell you what I’ll let *you* choose which one…
You have to much of the soccer player in you.
Your like them soccer players, everytime somebody comes within five feet of them they fall on the ground and start whining like the’re gonna die.
Cut it out with the Hansen stuff.
The man is a kook, a nutter champion.
OK, so now all the cold weather is caused by global warming. OK, we believe you PKD.
Didn’t say you werem’t having a spot of cold weather. What I said is its not nearly as cold as you’ve been making out.
Yes yes Hansen is a nutter. Obviously it takes one to recgnise one….